Newsgroups: soc.culture.singapore
From: "truth"
Subject: Police must act against Pastor Rony Tan
The Lighthouse Evangelism Paster Rony Tan made some disparaging
comment on Buddhism.
This is a breach of the law on Religious Harmony.
The Singapore Police must act. Failure to will demostrate to Singaporeans
that the pap government is controlled by fanatical Christians.
Blood will flow on the streets if the pap government don't move in early to
curb the activities of fanatical Christians who are not tolerant of other
religions.
From: "truth"
Subject: Pastor Rony Tan claimed Buddhism is demonic
Watch the third video.
In this part towards the end, Paster Rony Tan made the
following outrageous and false claims.
1.He claimed that Buddhism is demonic.
2.He rubbished Buddhism concept of reincarnation.
3.He claimed that Buddhism engaged in David Copperfield
trickery.
4. He put false words into the mouth of a dying Buddha.
He claimed that the dying Buddha's last words was "I am still
searching for the way."
5. He then claimed that Jesus appeared and told Buddha that
"I am the way."
This man and people of his kind are very dangerous for peace
and harmony in this world. We must put a stop to these
selfishly destructive people.
There are enough charges to lock him up for his lifetime.
I hope the Singapore Police act fast.
I also hope the Singapore pap government watch this trend of
evangelical Christians falsifying other religious teachings, mocking
and denegrading other religious teachings in order to grow their
memberships.
I forsee plenty of blood on the streets of Singapore if no
actions are taken against this paster Rony Tan and other pasters
who engaged in similar denegrading of other religious teachings.
The government must put a stop to these fanatical religious
extremism in Singapore be it Islam, Christian, Buddhism or any
other religions.
Rony Tan is a demon just like the Muslim
extremists.
What he has done is wrong and very dangerous.
It has the potential to initiate a religious war in
Singapore. It has the potential to destabilise
Singapore.
If the Singapore government can act to detain
suspected Muslim extremists, why is the Singapore
government so reluctant to charge Rony Tan ?
What Rony Tan did can have the same end
results as those suspected Muslim extremists
detained under by the ISD.
"~" <~...@home.com> wrote in message news:hkq2pf$pda$1@mawar.singnet.com.sg...
> Does Pastor Rony Tan have the right to find the truth?
> Did the running down of other religions help him to increase
> his flock of sheeps?
> What makes him think the Monk is a Monk?
> What makes him believe that the claimed Nun knows anything
> about nun hood?
> Is Pastor Rony Tan part of the world wide movement to
> save christianty from final destruction?
> Who knows what is a true GOD?
> As far as I know those who know never
> open their mouth?
> What ever religions one believes on, you would not
> know which is right until you dead.
> My conclusion is all religions are real,
> so far as I know none came back and prove
> that Christ, Mohd.,Buhda etc is true, it must
> be more confortable down there thye do not complain????????
ISD calls up pastor for insensitive comments (ST 9 Feb)/Youtube Videos of Saga
Posted by admin 8 February, 2010
THE Government called up a Christian church leader yesterday after receiving complaints about online video clips that show him making insensitive comments about Buddhism.
The Internal Security Department yesterday met Senior Pastor Rony Tan, founder of the Lighthouse Evangelism independent church, and told him that what he did was wrong.
Last night, he posted an apology on the church’s website, promising to respect other faiths and ‘not ridicule them in any way, shape or fashion’.
The video clips, which first appeared on the church’s website two weeks ago, showed Pastor Tan questioning two church members as they recounted their past experiences as Buddhists.
In the exchanges, some of Pastor Tan’s comments -- on Buddhist precepts of rebirth, karma and nirvana -- drew laughter from his audience.
The Ministry of Home Affairs said last night that his comments were ‘highly inappropriate and unacceptable as they trivialised and insulted the beliefs of Buddhists and Taoists’.
It said the ISD told him that in preaching or spreading his faith, ‘he must not run down other religions, and must be mindful of the sensitivities of other religions’.
Singapore’s Maintenance of Religious Harmony Act makes it unlawful for a person to make insensitive comments about other religions.
In his apology last night, the pastor did not refer to being at the ISD. Instead, he said he had received e-mail messages from people who had been ’saddened and hurt’ by what he had said, and realised that his presentation and comments were wrong and offensive.
‘So I sincerely apologise for my insensitivity towards the Buddhists and Taoists, and solemnly promise that it will never happen again,’ he said.
Although the video clips are no longer on the church’s website, netizens have reposted them on other forums.
Two short clips show Pastor Tan asking church member Joseph Wee about the time he was a Buddhist in the 1980s, including a short stint as a monk.
Mr Wee described chanting words he did not understand, and his frustration at not getting answers to his questions about attaining nirvana -- the Buddhist state of enlightenment.
Pastor Tan drew laughter from his audience with his remarks on the chanting, and compared Mr Wee’s effort to seek answers from his mentors as ‘the blind leading the blind’.
In a third video clip, a woman claimed she could recite an ancient Buddhist chant even though she had never heard it. Pastor Tan suggested that the words had been put into her mind by ‘demons’.
The video clips, carrying the church’s ‘Miracle TV’ logo, first appeared on the online forum HardwareZone on Feb 3. By last night, the forum thread had chalked up nearly 1,600 comments and more than 63,000 page views.
On YouTube, the three videos have garnered about 4,000 views each.
Many viewers who left comments felt that Pastor Tan’s comments about Buddhism were insensitive and unfair.
Lighthouse Evangelism has branches in Tampines and Woodlands, and describes itself as a ‘megachurch’. It has more than 12,000 members and is not affiliated with the National Council of Churches of Singapore.
The church was founded in 1978 by Pastor Tan who, in his online autobiography, said he was born into a Taoist family. His son Pacer is the church’s youth pastor, while his daughter Tracy leads the church’s drama ministry.
Buddhist and Taoist groups who had received complaints said last night that while it was good the authorities intervened, more should be done to ensure that such incidents did not recur.
Venerable Kwang Phing, secretary-general of the Singapore Buddhist Federation, said: ‘We put in so much work to maintain religious harmony in Singapore; it takes only one or two persons to jeopardise that process.’
In his apology, Pastor Tan urged netizens who have been circulating the videos to stop doing so.
He said also that he wanted to tell his followers ‘not only to continue to love souls, but also to respect other beliefs and not to ridicule them in any way, shape or fashion’.
He added: ‘Let’s put our goal to build a harmonious Singapore a top priority.’
From: baldeagle
Subject: Re: Rony Tan is a low down clown...telling lies and sick insulting jokes...in the name of Christ. He has to apologize now...like a pathetic fool.
On Feb 10, 9:32 am, Frankie Lee wrote:
> Rony Tan's honorable reputation and fame did not come overnight.He
> earned it.
He is like you, ..knows very little about Christianity, ..and
knows nothing about other religions.
He told lies, about things he know nothing about, he
act like a cheap street clown ...trying to earn tell sad,
insulting jokes to earn donations...in the name of Christ.
Others are NOT fooled. He got into hot water...His lies have
been found out...
He had to bow low in disgrace,...for his lies....Like a
fool , he had to apologize for his sick, insulting jokes
and lies.
He is pathetic.
From: OngBak3 <5191 ...="" gmail.com="">
Subject: Re: Rony Tan is a low down clown...telling lies and sick insulting jokes...in the name of Christ. He has to apologize now...like a pathetic fool.
So your God prefer to kill thousands of Haitians, but save a few rich
and well-to-do Singaporeans.?
Frankie, you are living under a coconut shell.
I tell you the truth. If you drink my sperm you will have long life
and will become a saint in Heaven. Frankie, that 's the kind of
healing power I have that even Rony Asshole Tan (Rat) does not have. I
will do it for you in front of all my Church members - 10,000 of them.
You Lighthouse christians are no different from Saint Osama of the Al
Queda evangelism. He promised his members they will go to heaven and
have 72 virgins waiting for them, should they die in their Jihad.
These videos below would have caused bloodshed and violence in other countries and if the religion is another religion instead of Buddhism, Rony may not be alive today.
The Japanese had always find Chinese hard to trust in business and they have good reasons. Many Chinese even forgot their own roots when come to matter of self-interest and money. Even the gigantic Great Wall cannot defend against the Chinese themselves. That was how the minority Mongols and Manchus conquered China with the Great Wall intact. They just have to exploit the weakness of the Chinese - each for themselves, and only themselves.
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