seamaster wrote:
Short fall of babies is good for Singapore cos population will eventually decline to an ideal 2millions.
Garment knows Ft will eventually balek kampong and thus need to su.ck them dry before they return.
Smaller population means HDB/food/water/electricity will become cheap again. Very Happy
wiley wrote:
when that happen you probably living 6 feet below ground already.
wiley wrote:
gov should pass a law saying each married woman must have a baby unless advice otherwise on medical ground. Gov should also commit to pay for all baby expenses from conception until the baby is born and 3yrs old.
50,000 babies can easily be achieve. Laughing Laughing
garyngng:
You, like the Pap govt, missed the point completely here.
If a person cannot see a future for himself going forward, and cannot see future for the child to be born here, the person will not want to give birth, whatever the incentive or pressure may be.
After all, it is the person who will have to take care of this new born for 20-30 years, not the govt.
The govt expect us to be intelligent when doing our job and earning a living, but expect us to be a blind i.d.i.o.t whenever they want us to follow their policies.
Let me quote what PM Goh once said which all PAP ministers should remember, "You can't have the cake, and also eat it".
Showing posts with label Singapore Birth Rate. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Singapore Birth Rate. Show all posts
Saturday, December 26, 2009
Wednesday, August 5, 2009
Low birth rate worries PM
From: Zanzibar
Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2009 02:54:14 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Wed, Aug 5 2009 5:54 pm
Subject: Re: low birth rate worries PM
On Aug 5, 4:10 pm, b...@b.com (Polar Bear) wrote:
> Why does he need to be worried? he already has the solution to the problem, the
> best of 1.3 billion Chinese and 1 billion Indians are there for him to cherry
> pick.
> Kudos to women but low birth rate worries PM
> by By Lee Hui Chieh
> PRIME Minister Lee Hsien Loong lauded women here yesterday for having made
> tremendous progress in the last few decades, and for their contributions to
> Singapore's development.
> But their advancement has brought unintended and worrying consequences,
> including late marriage and falling marriage and birth rates, he said.
> "The Government has been watching these trends with growing concern, and has
> been taking baby steps to do something about this," he said, speaking to 600
> women leaders at a meeting of the Asia-Pacific Economic Cooperation (Apec) Women
> Leaders Network yesterday.
> The Government has introduced measures to encourage parenthood, such as longer
> maternity leave and baby bonuses, but, despite these, the total fertility rate
> has remained at a very low 1.28.
> Mr Lee said: "What this means is one husband, one wife, 1.28 children. Next
> generation, 0.64 husband, 0.64 wife, and we are disappearing.
> "So, we are far below replacement level."
> The Prime Minister is the second senior Cabinet minister to speak about this
> issue.
> Just three days ago, Senior Minister Goh Chok Tong listed falling marriage and
> birth rates as one of the 10 challenges that Singapore faces.
> Yesterday, Mr Lee noted that education has helped more women enter universities,
> work in senior positions and participate in politics.
> For example, women now make up 55 per cent of the university intake here.
> The proportion of Members of Parliament who are female has also increased from
> less than 5 per cent to almost a quarter now.
> This has made women more financially independent and more inclined to prioritise
> their careers over other aspects of their lives, Mr Lee said.
> But some men's attitudes may not have changed quickly enough, resulting in a
> mismatch of men and women's expectations.
> So Singaporeans are marrying late, or not at all.
> And when they do get married, they have fewer children.
> The problems are not unique to Singapore and the country does not have all the
> solutions, Mr Lee said yesterday, but "like everyone else, we have to evolve
> with the times, and we hope to learn from one another".
> He said that the Government would continue to encourage pro-family policies and
> flexi-work arrangements.
> "Perhaps, eventually, we will find a new formula in society which enables young
> people to fulfil their aspirations and, at the same time, have families and
> children, and live complete, fulfilling lives," he added.
They have been saying these same things for the last 40 years at
national day speeches.
It shows that the Govt has not studied enough of the needs and wants
on why these couples refused to get married, and if they do, they
refused to have children, and if they do have, they refused to have
more than 1.
By blaming that other countries are having the same problems is not a
good excuse to apply in this uniquely Singapore.
This is because we have the resources to create ways unique from any
country in meeting those unique problems of expectations and wants
that Singaporeans constantly faced in this perpetual suffocating red
dot crowded system.
The long term cost benefits of having home-grown children and home-
bred chidlren are so high (than those imports) that I can give them or
met them all, if I am the PM,
Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2009 02:54:14 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Wed, Aug 5 2009 5:54 pm
Subject: Re: low birth rate worries PM
On Aug 5, 4:10 pm, b...@b.com (Polar Bear) wrote:
> Why does he need to be worried? he already has the solution to the problem, the
> best of 1.3 billion Chinese and 1 billion Indians are there for him to cherry
> pick.
> Kudos to women but low birth rate worries PM
> by By Lee Hui Chieh
> PRIME Minister Lee Hsien Loong lauded women here yesterday for having made
> tremendous progress in the last few decades, and for their contributions to
> Singapore's development.
> But their advancement has brought unintended and worrying consequences,
> including late marriage and falling marriage and birth rates, he said.
> "The Government has been watching these trends with growing concern, and has
> been taking baby steps to do something about this," he said, speaking to 600
> women leaders at a meeting of the Asia-Pacific Economic Cooperation (Apec) Women
> Leaders Network yesterday.
> The Government has introduced measures to encourage parenthood, such as longer
> maternity leave and baby bonuses, but, despite these, the total fertility rate
> has remained at a very low 1.28.
> Mr Lee said: "What this means is one husband, one wife, 1.28 children. Next
> generation, 0.64 husband, 0.64 wife, and we are disappearing.
> "So, we are far below replacement level."
> The Prime Minister is the second senior Cabinet minister to speak about this
> issue.
> Just three days ago, Senior Minister Goh Chok Tong listed falling marriage and
> birth rates as one of the 10 challenges that Singapore faces.
> Yesterday, Mr Lee noted that education has helped more women enter universities,
> work in senior positions and participate in politics.
> For example, women now make up 55 per cent of the university intake here.
> The proportion of Members of Parliament who are female has also increased from
> less than 5 per cent to almost a quarter now.
> This has made women more financially independent and more inclined to prioritise
> their careers over other aspects of their lives, Mr Lee said.
> But some men's attitudes may not have changed quickly enough, resulting in a
> mismatch of men and women's expectations.
> So Singaporeans are marrying late, or not at all.
> And when they do get married, they have fewer children.
> The problems are not unique to Singapore and the country does not have all the
> solutions, Mr Lee said yesterday, but "like everyone else, we have to evolve
> with the times, and we hope to learn from one another".
> He said that the Government would continue to encourage pro-family policies and
> flexi-work arrangements.
> "Perhaps, eventually, we will find a new formula in society which enables young
> people to fulfil their aspirations and, at the same time, have families and
> children, and live complete, fulfilling lives," he added.
They have been saying these same things for the last 40 years at
national day speeches.
It shows that the Govt has not studied enough of the needs and wants
on why these couples refused to get married, and if they do, they
refused to have children, and if they do have, they refused to have
more than 1.
By blaming that other countries are having the same problems is not a
good excuse to apply in this uniquely Singapore.
This is because we have the resources to create ways unique from any
country in meeting those unique problems of expectations and wants
that Singaporeans constantly faced in this perpetual suffocating red
dot crowded system.
The long term cost benefits of having home-grown children and home-
bred chidlren are so high (than those imports) that I can give them or
met them all, if I am the PM,
Friday, May 1, 2009
12,000 babies legally murdered by Singapore's by-laws
Newsgroups: soc.culture.singapore
From: "AleXX"
Date: Sat, 2 May 2009 00:13:27 +0800
Local: Sat, May 2 2009 12:13 am
Subject: 12,000 babies legally murdered by Singapore's by-laws...
EVERY night for a week, Ms Mazlinda Majlam had the same nightmare.
'It's a silhouette of a baby sitting down, and he will just be looking at me. The baby has no eyes, but he will be looking at me,' she said.
The horrifying dreams began in April, the night she returned home from having an abortion - two months after she was retrenched as a result of Singapore's worst recession in more than 40 years.
The mother of three said 'bad economic times' prompted her to terminate the pregnancy and she would not hesitate to have another abortion if necessary.
'I can't afford it,' said the tall, slim Majlam of the prospect of having another child soon.
Despite a national campaign to boost the birthrate, Singapore has one of Asia's most liberal abortion policies and the global financial crisis could be prompting more women to terminate pregnancies.
A Ministry of Health spokesman said there were 12,222 abortions in the country last year, compared to 11,933 in 2007. No official figures are available for 2009.
Gynaecologist Saifuddin Sidek said his private practice had recorded a 20 per cent rise in abortion patients so far this year compared with the same period last year.
'A lot of them are because of the current economic climate,' he said. 'No matter what incentives the government gives, (parents) may find it a bit hard to make ends meet, especially if they already have more than (one or) two children.'
Government figures show 39,935 babies delivered in 2008, well below the 60,000 Singapore needs just to maintain its native population. With abortion figures rising amid anecdotal evidence that the economic downturn is a contributing factor, Singapore's efforts to encourage couples to have more babies, including financial perks, could be derailed. --AFP
From: "AleXX"
Date: Sat, 2 May 2009 00:13:27 +0800
Local: Sat, May 2 2009 12:13 am
Subject: 12,000 babies legally murdered by Singapore's by-laws...
EVERY night for a week, Ms Mazlinda Majlam had the same nightmare.
'It's a silhouette of a baby sitting down, and he will just be looking at me. The baby has no eyes, but he will be looking at me,' she said.
The horrifying dreams began in April, the night she returned home from having an abortion - two months after she was retrenched as a result of Singapore's worst recession in more than 40 years.
The mother of three said 'bad economic times' prompted her to terminate the pregnancy and she would not hesitate to have another abortion if necessary.
'I can't afford it,' said the tall, slim Majlam of the prospect of having another child soon.
Despite a national campaign to boost the birthrate, Singapore has one of Asia's most liberal abortion policies and the global financial crisis could be prompting more women to terminate pregnancies.
A Ministry of Health spokesman said there were 12,222 abortions in the country last year, compared to 11,933 in 2007. No official figures are available for 2009.
Gynaecologist Saifuddin Sidek said his private practice had recorded a 20 per cent rise in abortion patients so far this year compared with the same period last year.
'A lot of them are because of the current economic climate,' he said. 'No matter what incentives the government gives, (parents) may find it a bit hard to make ends meet, especially if they already have more than (one or) two children.'
Government figures show 39,935 babies delivered in 2008, well below the 60,000 Singapore needs just to maintain its native population. With abortion figures rising amid anecdotal evidence that the economic downturn is a contributing factor, Singapore's efforts to encourage couples to have more babies, including financial perks, could be derailed. --AFP
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