Zainul Abidin (PAP MP) blamed LKY for losing the GRC in Aljunied

oldson sin wrote:
Ex-MP for Aljunied GRC, Zainul Abidin Rasheed told reporters: "You
need only ask the Malays and Muslims in Singapore - many were hurt by
those remarks(by LKY) and remain so".

" No Singaporean must ever feel alienated, or worse, marginialised."
Zainal felt that as a Malay, he has been alienated and marginalized
and remain so.

If this was how he felt as a Malay Singaporean, other Muslims must
have similar feelings. It is no wonder that Malays had voted against
PAP.

Is LKY to be blamed for PAP loss in Aljunied?

From my conversation with the Malays in Aljunied, I gathered, MP
Zainul Abidin had NOT visited them(those living outside his designated
zone) even once in 5 years.

To the Malays in Aljunied, the opposition MPs will be able to speak
more effectively on their behalf in Parliament without the control of
the PAP whip.
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SINGAPORE - While Minister Mentor Lee Kuan Yew felt that his remarks about Malays, Muslims and integration did not affect the Malay vote for the ruling People's Action Party (PAP), Senior Minister of State for Foreign Affairs Zainul Abidin Rasheed said yesterday: "You need only ask the Malays and Muslims in Singapore - many were hurt by those remarks and remain so".

Mr Zainul, who was a member of the PAP Aljunied GRC team which lost the General Election (GE), made this point to "show how easily the knots of racial harmony in our community can unravel".

"Integration does not only mean living in harmony. There must be equally opportunities for all ... No Singaporean must ever feel alienated, or worse, marginialised," he told reporters yesterday.

Asked about the timing of Mr Lee's remarks, which were published in the book Hard Truths to Keep Singapore Going, Mr Zainul pointed out the remarks had been made two years ago but as the book was only published earlier this year, he acknowledged: "So in that sense, (the) timing was bad for the GE."

Published by Singapore Press Holdings, the book is based on 16 interviews with MM Lee done by journalists from The Straits Times. It was launched about three months before the General Election.

However, Mr Zainul admitted that there "is no such thing as good timing or bad timing" to discuss potentially sensitive issues "because it sometimes touches on the raw nerves and this is where we have to manage the way we discuss such potentially sensitive issues, and issues that could also be divisive".

He also pointed out that some "very sensitive issues" pertaining to the Malay-Muslim community - such as National Service, tertiary fees and quotas in public housing - had been previously discussed behind closed doors and in public.

"I think it's the combination of the approaches we have taken that has brought the community to a level of maturity and be able to face these issues squarely, and then move forward," he added.

Unlike his PAP team mates, Cabinet Ministers George Yeo and Lim Hwee Hua, who had announced their retirement from politics earlier this week, Mr Zainul, stopped short of saying as much.

"I will always be involved in community work and I can never say, 'never', in life or in politics," the 63-year-old said. "But given my age ... I think it is unlikely for me to stand in the next election."

TRANSFORMATION AN ONGOING PROCESS
While various PAP leaders have spoken about the need for reform from within the ruling party, Mr Zainul noted the transformation "is an ongoing process".

He also recounted some of the changes which he had witnessed within the PAP.

As an editor with the Singapore Press Holdings between 1976 and 1996, Mr Zainul remembered Mr Lee - then Prime Minister - would consult many editors before important decisions and speeches.

"We found that if we do our homework and we were sincere in giving our feedback, in fact, Minister Mentor was even willing to change decisions which they had already made," Mr Zainul said.

When Mr Goh Chok Tong took over as Prime Minister, Mr Zainul pointed out the PAP Government tried to make the political process "more consultative" and "open".

Similarly, Prime Minister Lee Hsien Loong is "more engaging and prepared to listen", Mr Zainul felt.

But he pointed out: "We have leaders among ourselves, or even in the civil service, people who have strong views themselves, who have their own opinions, and it's a matter of how do we actually blend the opinions, positions and feedback, and how do we bring them a policy that is acceptable to all."

While the Government "cannot please everyone", Mr Zainul felt it could do better in managing the communicating policies, managing feedback of people that may disagree with the Government and the communication process. "This is something which I think the party has started doing it, and I think we can only go deeper and do more," he added.

S’pore needs more well-educated new citizens : LKY

from: reborner
S’pore needs more educated immigrants to make country dynamic, says MM
Lee

SINGAPORE : Singapore’s Minister Mentor Lee Kuan Yew has reiterated
the need for Singapore to attract more educated immigrants.

Speaking at the Indian New Year celebrations in Little India on
Saturday, Mr Lee said Singaporeans must recognise that with a
declining population, the country needs such people, including those
who have studied or worked in the US and Europe.

With the economy in a buoyant mood after the government upgraded its
growth forecast for the year, Mr Lee said Singapore needs to grow as
an attractive hub for international trade, investment and talent to
sustain long—term growth.

"We benefited from being open to immigrants from around the world,
especially China, India and the region. Throughout history, Singapore
has welcomed migrants. When I first took office, we had 62,000 babies
every year from a population of 2 million. Today, Singapore citizens
produce only 32,000 babies in a year when we should have 60,000 just
to replace our population," said MM Lee.

Little India is a glowing example of how early immigrants have
flourished and taken root in the country.

Mr Lee said the government understands the concerns of Singaporeans
over new immigrants and foreign workers. So it has taken steps to
moderate the inflow and widen the differentiation between citizens and
non—citizens.

Having educated immigrants here, said Mr Lee, makes Singapore more
competitive and dynamic.

"The majority of the new PRs and citizens are skilled workers and
professionals in finance, IT and R&D. They bring new skills, global
connections and a strong drive to create better lives for their
families," said Mr Lee.

Mr Lee gave an example of how one immigrant is making a difference.

"Shyam Srinivasan came from Chennai at age 14, and went to Geylang
Methodist Secondary School and Victoria Junior College. He took up
citizenship and obtained a teaching scholarship from the Public
Service Commission," said the Minister Mentor.

"Last year, he graduated top of his class in Physics at Oxford
University. He is now doing his Masters in Applied Physics at Columbia
University. He will come back and complete his NS. He will educate and
inspire the next generation of Singaporeans," he said.

Their presence has also helped to shape the Singapore landscape.

Mr Lee cited how many Indian temples today have been refurbished to
look "elegant" and "colourful".

"Our immigration policies have brought in better educated and wealthy
Indians who have made that qualitative difference to our lives. Their
support of these temples has resulted in this transformation,
reflecting the transformation that is taking place throughout
Singapore," said Mr Lee.

Mr Lee said the challenge is to integrate newcomers into Singapore
society and an event like this Indian New Year Celebration is a good
example of how integration can be done.

The event brings together different communities, not just among the
different Indian ethnic groups, but also Singaporeans of all races. -CNA
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From trevally8:
Educated?
What is the definition?
We have more than enough native educated Singaporeans!
These FT are like the Romania ambassador.
When they need you, they will sing how good SIN is but when they are going off they will bad mouth SIN until like they were forced to stay in SIN city.
I think the govt seriously do not know what is happening on the ground.
Do we really need those normal educated FT?
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From chokky

the unhappiness on the ground is real.
i already felt it when i was doing my ns.
back in the 90s, people talked alot, made noise, but i never got the feeling they were unhappy. but around the late 2000s, things changed. people talked, and they were starting to get genuinely unhappy. they started citing examples of unhappiness, something which was not done previously.

i had many of my guys in ns coming to me asking why they are forced to slog so much in ns out in the field when many others did not, and new citizens did not need to. frankly i had no good answer to them, and today i still have no good answer.

and now the guys have largely grown up---and what are they thinking of nowadays?
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From diveaces
obviously the FTs here are not educated enuf...we need MORE!!??

haha...obviously by opening the flood gates, any kuchi kurang also can come in....so not very right...
in order to attract the capable and really proper FTs, the brand and the citizenship should be coveted....right now...the citizens here are like 3rd class...how u expect to attract the Good Class FTs?....

LKY earns over $30 million a year

From: yansimon52
Subject: Re: The multiple sources of income of LKY

On Jan 19, 11:14 am, "truth" wrote:
> LKY draws a salary of over $3 million a year.
> He also draws a pension. Until not too long ago this
> is secret to average Singaporeans.
> He earns director fees for sitting on many corporate boards.
> He collected $millions from his royalties from his writings
> including feature articles for world media.
> He collected huge rentals from his massive property portfolios.
> He also collected lots of dividends from his massive share,
> bonds and other financial instruments.
> As Chairman of GIC with a portfolio of over US$300 billion
> I am sure they rewarded him in the $millions.
> LKY is raking in well over $30 million a year.
> He is a very very rich man.
> So a low income tax is very much in his favour.
> Cutting the inheritance tax to zero is very good for his children.
> So less transperancy is also good for him. The less Singaporeans
> know of the extent of his richness, the less they will be unhappy
> with his broken promise to give poor and average Singaporeans
> a decent life and a secure retirement in return for keeping him in
> power for so long.
> He has forgotten about his promise. These are things furthest
> from his mind. How can Singaporeans ever trust him again ?

Jack Neo taught him....'money not enough'.....

LKY's grandson won World's Best Debater Award

From: Tanki <5191 ...="" gmail.com="">

Subject: LKY's grandson won World's Best Debater Award

Li Shengwu is the World's best debater
Mr Li Shengwu, son of Fraser & Neave chairman Lee Hsien Yang and
corporate lawyer Lee Suet Fern, and the grandson of Minister Mentor
Lee Kuan Yew, is named world's top debater.

WOW! Top grade genes are running in the Lee's family.


World's best debater [

LKY said PAP mps are dummies

From: Tanki <5191 ...="" gmail.com="">
Subject: Re: LKY said " PAP mps are dummies."
On Dec 29, 10:35 pm, "truth" wrote:

> This is what LKY said:

> "To be the prime minister, you don't have to know every instrument, but you
> got to recognise, ah, he's a good violinist, he'll be the first violinist,
> he'll be the double bass. He will play the viola, he will have the trumpet,
> he will do the drums. Then you coordinate them and then you have great
> music. And if you already have a great orchestra, you can put a dummy there
> and you still got great music."

I think he is refering to himself.
What is he doing nowadays?
Nothing, just talking here and talking there.
But his salary continues unabated....

LKY run down Singaporeans again.

Subject: LKY run down Singaporeans again.

truth comment: this senile old man is talking bad about
singaporeans again. now he even said as far as the pap government
is concern, the plight of singaporeans is not their problem. how
can singaporeans support such an obnoxious government ?

New reason for FTs : S'poreans have become less hard-driving and
hard-striving

"Over time, Singaporeans have become less hard-driving and hard-striving.
This is why it is a good thing that the nation has welcomed so many Chinese
immigrants"
- MM Lee, National Geographic, The Singapore Solution, Jan 2010
.
Gee, we were told they were here to create jobs for Singaporeans and
we should be thankful. Then we were told they were here because of the low
fertility rate. Long time ago we were told they were needed for skills that
didn't exist in Singapore. We were also told they are here for jobs
Singaporeans did not want.
.
Now we are told they are here because Singaporeans are now too lazy for
Singapore Inc. Yes, years of good life and pampering by the PAP govt has
turned us into softies unable to compete in this globalised economy. Strange
isn't it? If these hardworking and hard striving Chinese immigrants are so
productive why has our productivity fallen as their numbers rise?
.
To the elitist PAP govt, the ordinary Singaporean is never good enough. The
70 yr old who has to clean tables at the Bedok Hawker Center for a living
does not strive hard enough. The mother with 2 disabled kids did not strive
hard enough to look for a job to support her family. The Singapore workforce
ranked no. 1 for over a decade was not hard driving enough for the PAP. Only
people who does any real work in Singapore is the PAP govt that is why their
ministers deserve to make in one day what some of the workers earn in a
year.
.
" If native Singaporeans are falling behind because "the spurs are not stuck
into the hide," that is their problem" - MM Lee
.
This explains why the blame is always put on Singaporeans for almost every
problem faced by our society. You find it hard to afford a HDB flat - that
is because you didn't strive hard enough. You struggle to raise your family,
pay the ever-increasing bills for electricity & transport and find it hard
to cope with the unstable job market - you didn't strive hard enough.
You recall what Wee Shu Min once said:
.
"i should think not. dear derek is one of many wretched, undermotivated,
overassuming leeches in our country, and in this world. one of those who
would prefer to be unemployed and wax lyrical about how his myriad talents
are being abandoned for the foreigner's, instead of earning a decent, stable
living as a sales assistant. it's not even about being a road sweeper. these
shitbags don't want anything without "manager" and a name card.
please, get out of my elite uncaring face."
.
....and her father is president of the defense business section ST
Engineering which is fed mainly by our defense budget i.e. taxpayer's money.
The PAP elites likes to talk about the ordinary Singaporeans not working
hard enough and not being able to compete. However, the PAP itself shuns
competition preferring to tweak the laws to retain their monopolistic
powers. The PAP men like to work in state own monopolies for ridiculously
high salaries and from their ivory towers command the ordinary Singaporean
to be cheaper, better and faster. We take the overcrowded buses and MRT so
that their transport companies can make money, we live in small overpriced
public housing (the most expensive in the world), we pay the 2nd highest
electricity tariffs in the world and we pay the highest salaries in the
world for those PAP ministers...if there is one reason Singapore is not
competitive it is because there are leeches sucking the blood of ordinary
Singaporeans.

Dangerous to let a mistake-prone LKY lead Singapore

From: "icon."
Subject: Re: Dangerous to let a mistake-prone LKY lead Singapore

We have survive better from each crisis better than your country. Your
country is infected with too much issues and will crumble soon or later.

"truth" wrote in message
> That LKY is still calling the shots and providing the brain thrusts
> to the papist leegime, there is little doubt.
> That LKY is making all sorts of mistakes there is also little doubt.
> The latest is his comment on Dubai visionary leadership in 2006.
> This is now coming back to haunt him in the wake of the bankrupcy of
> Dubai. U will also remember that in 2007, LKY make the bold
> prediction that Singapore is in a prolong golden era. The world is
> now in deep recession and Singapore is one of the worst affected.
> U will also remember that in 2008 LKY also predicted that the
> Western world financial and economic crisis will not spread to
> Asia. Back in 1996, LKY urged Singaporeans to go regional.
> Many businessmen did and lost heavily. Not long after in 1997
> the massive Asian Financial crisis rock the region and corps
> fell like bowling pins.
> With a feeble and error-prone mind like that, he sure is a danger
> to Singapore and Singaporeans.
> So Singaporeans, please wise up. Screw this man and kick him
> out.

What LKY said of Dubai

From: "icon"

Subject: Re: What LKY said of Dubai

Dubai mismanaged their own fund, they only have themselves to blame.

"truth" wrote in message

> When LKY was praising Dubai, I was posting here
> warning of their demise. The way they were throwing away
> $, it is so obvious they were heading for disaster. Check on
> achive of my postings on google.
> Dubai is history and the place will never be the same again.
> The trust and confidence on which it is build is gone forever.
> No sane investors will trust them again.

> "truth" wrote in message
> news:74RPm.58062$ze1.11786@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
>> http://www.ameinfo.com/118328.html

>> "truth" wrote in message
>> news:jXQPm.58057$ze1.7979@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
>>> "Dubai has the resources and visionary leadership to be one of the
>>> world's leading business hubs." Singapore's elder statesman said: "I'm
>>> greatly enthused by what's happening in Dubai. It's spectacular" -Lee
>>> Kuan Yew in the UAE, April 29, 2007.

>>> truth comment: this shameless coward keep on making a fool of himself on
>>> the world
>>> stage. people are just being nice to him by pretending to listen to him.
>>> but in their hearts
>>> they are having a good laugh at this shameless coward who has been
>>> making all sorts
>>> or ridiculous statements.

LKY joke that singaporean unable to reproduce so FT needed

漂亮宝贝嫩乳
Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 6:58 pm Post subject:
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how to reproduce? have u calculate
1) doctor fees 700 - 1500
2) hospital fees 1500 excluding medisave
3) baby items $1500
4) pei yue aunty $2000
5) milk $150 per months
6) baby regular check up $300 per month
7) toys to simulate babies $200
Equipment for babies $2000
9) no mother, u will need a nanny $1500 per month

ask MM how average singaporean can reproduce in blood sucking singapore???
MM relaxing in his $200 million worth Oxley bungalow talks "feng liang hua"

Nobel Prize for LKY?

From: "GOOD"
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 2009 08:02:06 +0800
Local: Sat, Oct 10 2009 8:02 am
Subject: Re: LKY must be jealous

If LKY gets it, then we should also give one to Adolf Hitler and murderer
Bush.
"truth" wrote in message

> LKY must be wondering why after 50 years he still has not
> got the Nobel Peace Prize. Afterall he has been travelling the
> global given free advise to so many people on how to run
> their internal and external affairs.
> Barack Obama has been on the scene for 9 months only and
> he has won it.
> LKY should now seriously reflect on his approach. It must be
> fundamentally wrong.

From: "Observer"

Hey MORON!
We don't need the Nobel prize...
All we need is the support of our former
Kempetei people that helped us to live
a good life whilst everybody else was suffering, ok.

BTW...have you ever heard of former Kempetei
and Third Reicht workers being nominated for
Nobel prize for peace?
You think we work at the Kempetei and Third Reicht
to bring peace to the world?
LOL.

LKY system of government is dangerous to global freedom

From: Damned-Virus-Data Miner providers
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2009 19:47:47 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Tues, Sep 15 2009 10:47 am
Subject: Re: LKY system of government is dangerous to global freedom

On Sep 14, 11:34 pm, "truth" wrote:

> truth comment: so now someone has written a book exposing the
> evils of lky system of government. for many years now i have been
> warning the free west to watchout for this megalomaniac, lky who
> wants to establish his system of government for the whole world
> so that he will be remembered in history as the greatest politician
> ever live.

> http://www.guardian.co.uk/books/2009/sep/13/freedom-for-sale-john-kam...
> Freedom for Sale by John Kampfner
> John Kampfner's study of the Singapore style of government - now spreading
> across the world - chillingly shows how much is lost under this brand of
> democracy, says Peter Preston

> a.. Somehow, as the last millennium began to turn up its toes, Winston
> Churchill's "least worst" system of government became a quasi-religion for
> those who worshipped shining cities on hills. Democracy, loosely defined,
> had slain the red dragon of Marxism. Henceforth, St George Bush could launch
> his crusades against the infidel (waging more wars to end wars). Ballot
> boxes possessed the supposed power to deliver peace, harmony and full
> partnership in global growth. They magically separated the good guys from
> the bad guys.
> But now, much assisted by John Kampfner's acidulous essays in autocratic
> reality, we can all wake up. Kampfner, political journalist turned human
> rights campaigner, isn't dealing here with the shambles of Afghanistan. His
> more amorphous target is the anaesthetised freedom of the city state of his
> birth, Singapore, and the insidious spread of Lee Kuan Yew's model
> democracy - not just to Malaysia, but on to Beijing and beyond.

> Can you have economic success without political freedom? The Bush and Blair
> camps would probably answer no, with a windy rhetorical flourish. Capitalism
> depends on the market and the market depends on human beings (aka consumers)
> exercising free choice. But Singapore has slyly inserted another level of
> choice. It has made what Kampfner calls "a pact" with its citizenry. You can
> accrete wealth and trappings, eat good food, live in fine houses and enjoy a
> "good" life: just don't rock our boat.

> It's a covert deal intended to keep everyone happy. It offers those who've
> made it the ability to keep it. It gives new generations of loyal citizens
> the prospect that they, too, can grow rich and contented. The price - a
> certain quiescence - doesn't seem so high by the side of a swimming pool.
> What alternative is there? Utter a word out of place and you'll be sued,
> banned or taxed out of existence. Play the game and the world smiles with
> you. Free choice can mean choosing not to get involved.

> There's one further factor that Kampfner shrewdly pops into this pot: simple
> fear, as in terror of chaos. Lee Kuan Yew, like his disciples in Kuala
> Lumpur, trades on fear of communal violence. Beijing has centuries of civil
> war and imploding dynasties to shiver the timbers of its fledgling tycoons.
> Vladimir Putin, offering order against the drunken debacles of the Yeltsin
> era, adds Moscow to the list. And so, from India to Berlusconi's Italy, to
> Brown's phone-tapping Britain, we see true freedoms under attack, fading,
> dying.

> It is a pungent thesis, argued with verve and an abundance of telling
> detail. Maybe the force diminishes as we reach Obama, because he doesn't
> (yet) fit. Maybe the shock of the new blinds Kampfner to the grot of the
> old. Was there ever a golden age when Labour in office served all of the
> people all of the time? And Kampfner's habit of parading his travel
> schedules in the present tense - like Alan Whicker playing John Pilger -
> gets irritating.

> But none of this diminishes the fundamental questions of Freedom for Sale,
> often posed with a clarity that makes you wince. We in the west still
> swagger over a cold war won; we still see, if not the end of history, then a
> dividing line with grim things past; we still employ the verbiage of
> liberation, hope and achievement. Has the crunch squeezed all of that out of
> us? No, not quite. Business as usual remains somewhere on the back of the
> menu. But what does it amount to?

> Government by some of the people for some of the people (the ones who
> matter). Election by clique, twist and fiddle. Lip service to public
> service. And fear rippling onwards, as rationale or excuse. Where will this
> cowardly new world go when the threat is real? Is there a strong man who
> will bust through the facade of freedom and construct a rescue pact? It's
> where John Kampfner's grisly logic takes us next, one more reason to read
> and flinch. Perhaps we haven't seen anything yet.

The addon to the message, he is not only creating global freedo
trouble but also allow local troubles which whatever had happened until now....business freedom is also a problem under his MM rule of Singapore.....isn't it so?

LKY personal propaganda tool = public media

From: "truth"
Date: Wed, 09 Sep 2009 04:31:46 GMT
Local: Wed, Sep 9 2009 12:31 pm
Subject: LKY personal propaganda tool = public media

No doubt about that. The Singapore public media is nothing
more than LKY personal propanda tool. He has direct access
to all the top managment especially the editors. He instructs
them not only on subject matters but also in format and way
it should be presented to the public.
For e.g. during the Sars crisis, LKY told the editors to do
something which they have never done before which is to
produce a booklet information sheets on Sars.

The same old cunning fox

From: Damned-Virus-Data Miner providers
Date: Sun, 6 Sep 2009 00:20:05 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Sun, Sep 6 2009 3:20 pm
Subject: Re: The same old cunning fox

On Sep 4, 8:55 pm, "AleXX" wrote:

> Quote from the old fox Lee:
> "What if we have a freak election, as we may well have? So we've set in
> place a president with blocking powers. Any opposition that comes in will
> find that he cannot touch the reserves, otherwise you can promise the sky
> and spend the money.

> http://news.asiaone.com/News/AsiaOne%2BNews/Singapore/Story/A1Story20...

> Opposition cannot touch the reserve. Only he, the old fox and his
> daughter-in-law (the fifth most powerful woman in the solar system), can
> simply yanked away $40 billions of the reserve in a span of 12 months. This
> old fox is trying to teach his citizen how to suck eggs?

one more additional thing to add on is that count MDA die, dare to run
kan pi....see
fart......by rating film story, scenes (limit to one violence and one
sexual content or two violent or
two sexual content in movie) for M18 rating. you got sin for doing
this for adults.........

LKY backtracked on military option

From: Damned-Virus-Data Miner providers
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 2009 11:05:44 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Fri, Sep 4 2009 2:05 am
Subject: Re: LKY backtracked on military option

On Sep 3, 10:36 pm, "truth" wrote:


> Wow, now LKY dare not confirm that he will call in the
> military should Singaporeans kick out the pap from government.
> See, he must have realised now that he is so out of touch with
> the thinking, aspiration and feeling of ordinary Singaporeans.
> He now admitted that the pap may lose power. For him to say
> this in public is a good indication of the level of support they
> are getting from their own internal survey. As I have said, LHL's
> approval rating is similar to George Bush - in the twenties.
> Singaporeans should continue to pressure the pap leegime. Don't
> have any sympathy for them. Afterall they have no sympathy
> for the ordinary Singaporeans. Give it to the papist leegime
> Singaporeans. Time for a change of government in Singapore.
> Over 50 years with the same old leegime is very stiffling and
> suffocating.


not only this message been said but also the serup of more casino
etc which will cause people to gamble more and lose more money
due to greed as the earning of Singaporeans are just like this only.
The other problem which we can say is part of the casino problem is that
loan sharks are more daring these days which I think by the time the
casino at the two IR is up at Marina and Sentosa, there will be more violent
issue that might happened due to loaning of money etc. What a bad idea of
this casino issue.

LKY contribution to the political retardation of Singapore

From: "lobert"
Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2009 22:46:35 +0800
Local: Sat, Aug 15 2009 10:46 pm
Subject: Re: LKY contribution to the political retardation of Singapore.

"truth" wrote in message

> When LKY took over power in 1959, he won in a democratic
> election. At that time Indonesia, Thailand, Taiwan and South
> Korea were ruled by ironclad dictators.
> Now these countries are truly democratic where citizens are
> free to demonstrate and express they views and feelings without
> harassments by the authorities. On the other hand Singapore has
> turned from a democratic country into a family dictatorship
> cammouflaged as a one party state.
> This is LKY's contribution to the political progress of Singapore.

Singapore is proud to be within the tripartite dictatorial Asian countries:
Myanmar-North Korean-Singapore

LKY failed to make Singapore a nation

You are wrong. LKY had made Singapore a nation full of Permanent Residents
and a Foreigners' paradise.

"truth" wrote in message

> In his own words, LKY admitted that Singapore is still
> NOT a nation.
> Gee, for 50 years what has LKY been doing.
> He must have been enjoying his power and $billions so
> much until he forgot about nation building.

Why should Singaporeans pay to enhance the myth of LKY

From: "Zai Zai"
Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2009 12:01:14 GMT
Local: Thurs, Jun 25 2009 8:01 pm
Subject: Re: Why should Singaporeans pay to enhance the myth of LKY ?

Hey lobert Xin Xin aka Ape, where have you been for so long? I have been
taking over your posting junks that you always do here. Now, I can say nah!
you can have it back posting your stupid junk responses.

"lobert" wrote in message

> Hey! Senile lair, you have also been abusing the word "truth" as you nick
> !

> truth wrote:
>> truth comment: how many $millions are allocated and spend
>> on these awards in the name of lky ? why are the awards
>> given in the name of lky when it is the country who is paying
>> for it ? rightly the award should be call the singapore award
>> instead of lky award. lky is abusing singaporeans wealth to
>> perpetuate his own fame and myth.

LKY prize for city excellence
By Reico Wong

Minister for National Development, Mr Mah Bow Tan (left) arrived at the media briefing to introduce the Lee Kuan Yew World City Prize. --ST PHOTO: LIM SIN THAI

A NEW prize to recognise outstanding international initiatives for city excellence was announced on Monday by Senior Minister and Co-ordinating Minister for National Security, Professor S Jayakumar at the opening of Singapore International Water Week.

Called the Lee Kuan Yew World City Prize, the biennial international award focuses on four pillars instrumental to the success of every city - liveability, vibrancy, sustability and quality of life.

Review committe for the LKY World Cities prize
NOMINEES of the Lee Kuan Yew World City Prize will have to go through reviews and examination by a nominating committee and a prize council, whose members are:



Nominating Council

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It aims to recognise outstanding individuals and organisations who have contributed urban policies or projects which epitomise foresight, good governance or innovation in overcoming urban challenges in these areas.

The award is co-organised by the Urban Redevelopment Authority (URA) and the Centre for Liveable Cities, and places an emphasis on practical and cost effective ideas that can generate impactful social, economic and environmental benefits, and as far as possible, can be replicated across cities and communities around the world.

The Lee Kuan Yew World City Prize is the second Lee Kuan Yew prize to be launched. The first was the inaugural Lee Kuan Yew Water Prize launched in 2008, and similarly harnesses the spirit of innovation and foresight that contribute to urban city development.

The award is in line with Singapore's vision to promote excellence and thought leadership in the area of urban planning and management.

Minister for National Development, Mr Mah Bow Tan, said, 'Many cities are faced with challenges of rapid urban growth, lack of housing and infrastructure and increasing traffic congestion. Singapore too seeks to develop a liveable and sustainable city with a good quality of life.

'We hope that the Lee Kuan Yew World City Prize will serve as a catalyst to facilitate the sharing of best practices in urban solutions world wide, and spur further innovation in sustainable urban development in pursuit of city excellence.'

Nominees and the winner will be selected through a rigorous two-tier selection process which includes review by both a nominating committee and a prize council made up of local and international prominent thought leaders and experts.

The inaugural Lee Kuan Yew World City Prize will be awarded in June 2010, together with the Lee Kuan Yew Water Prize at the Lee Kuan Yew Awards Ceremony and Banquet, to be held during the World Cities Summit 2010 in Singapore.

Once upon a time - LKY did mentioned

From: "AleXX"
Date: Sat, 6 Jun 2009 22:18:24 +0800
Local: Sat, Jun 6 2009 10:18 pm
Subject: Once upon a time - LKY did mentioned

Once upon a time, LKY told Singaporeans not to vote for the oppositions. He
mentioned that if oppositions are voted into power, they would have
bankrupted Singapore's money's reserves just like what his PAP government is
doing right now through Temasek Holding with his untrained daughter-in-law
at the helm.

LKY globe trotting advising others while his son mess things up

From: "truth"
Date: Thu, 04 Jun 2009 14:40:38 GMT
Local: Thurs, Jun 4 2009 10:40 pm
Subject: LKY globe trotting advising others while his son mess things up

This is ironic and comical.
LKY is travelling all over the world advising others how
to run their affairs while his own son is messing up the show
in Singapore.

This old man is really thick skin and completely out of touch
with reality. He is living in his own make-belief world.

LKY owed an explaination to Singaporeans

From: "truth"
Date: Thu, 04 Jun 2009 13:58:58 GMT
Local: Thurs, Jun 4 2009 9:58 pm
Subject: LKY owed an explaination to Singaporeans

LKY keep on telling Singaporeans that their decision to
put our money into Western Banks is for the long term of
up to 30 years.

While he was telling us this, behind the scene Temasek which
is managed by his daughter-in-law was secretly liquiditing
these investments in Citi and Barclays at huge loses. They
were probably sold in the lowest price ever. Had they hold
on until now they could have made some profit like the
Arabs.

Lee Kuan Yew, why are you lying to us ?

Newsgroups: soc.culture.singapore
From: "Zai Zai"
Date: Thu, 04 Jun 2009 14:53:22 GMT
Local: Thurs, Jun 4 2009 10:53 pm
Subject: Re: LKY owed an explaination to Singaporeans

But it was you people who went to the poll and voted for us, and now you say
you can't trust us. I think we wouldn't trust you people no more, 50 years
we wasted 50 years of our youth and lifes and you ungrateful buggers turn
your backs and say you can't trust us no more now. We could have been very
successful entrepreneurs making our billions, why do we even bother with
that miserable multimillions salary that we're getting. You people should
just wake up and look at those 3rd world nations, no food, no work, and they
don't even know what tomorrow will bring them. You ungrateful buggers must
experience the hardship like those 3rd world nations and then you will learn
to appreciate our sacrifice more and say how fortunate we are.