Saturday, August 29, 2009

Man Who Screwed China Sluts Got cock beaten by wife

From: beng1 <5191 ...="""">
Date: Sat, 29 Aug 2009 02:06:12 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Sat, Aug 29 2009 5:06 pm
Subject: Man Who Screwed China Sluts Got cock beaten by wife

This is the price you pay for screwing at Geylang last night. The next
time she will cut off your cock. That's the final warning she just
given. So owner of car SCU 148 L, better be good from now on. Maybe a
good idea to insure his dick with AIG, else he can never sleep in
peace while at home.

Nation run by scholars = DISASTER

From: "truth"
Date: Sat, 29 Aug 2009 08:44:40 GMT
Local: Sat, Aug 29 2009 4:44 pm
Subject: Nation run by scholars = DISASTER

A nation run by scholars
Two senior persons, a company director and a businessman, expressed a
similar view. They are concerned that Singapore is now run by scholars who
do not have experience about the business environment and try to solve the
problems by writing papers.

The handling of the mini-bond crisis is an example. Although the initial
response of the authority was appropriate, the subsequent events (especially
after the Hong Kong settlement) needed a new response. But, the scholars
were not able to handle this type of situation.

There were incidences of cheating in motor insurance claims. The situation
is getting worse over the years. Reports made to the authority were not
followed up or investigated, but were pushed aside. The insurance companies
were asked to solve this problem, but they do not have the regulatory power.

Many foreign workers reported that they had to pay a large sum of money (USD
9,000) to get a permit to work in Singapore. There were a suspicion that a
large part of this money goes to the pocket of the employer who held the
work permits.
A minister was reported to have said that as the payment was made in a
foreign country, it falls outside the jurisdiction of Singapore. Surely, an
investigation can be done in Singapore to see if the employer had received
some payments?

This lack of practical experience applies not only to the senior levels of
the civil service, but higher up in the chain of command. We have to move
away from writing papers to the real issues faced by the people in

Tan Kin Lian
Posted by Tan Kin Lian

Friday, August 28, 2009

Beyonce to rent $8 million apartment in Singapore

From: beng1 <5191 ...="""">
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2009 08:52:59 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Fri, Aug 28 2009 11:52 pm
Subject: Beyonce to rent $8 million apartment in Singapore

Beyonce and hubby Jay-Z are set to rent an $8 million apartment in
Singapore! No silly, Beyonce and Jay-Z aren’t migrating. They will be
headlining the city’s F1 Rocks concert next month and surely they want
the most luxurious pad.

Like the Japanese - Singaporean should kick out pap

From: "truth"
Date: Sat, 29 Aug 2009 02:47:07 GMT
Local: Sat, Aug 29 2009 10:47 am
Subject: Japanese will kick out LDP, Singaporean should kick out pap

Saturday, August 29, 2009
Why the LDP is likely to lose the elections.

The LDP of Japan which has held power in Japan for 5 decades looks set to
face almost certain defeat at the polls this weekend. Found this short
paragraph explaining why how LDP lost the support of the people and why the
Japanese people are no longer grateful to the LDP which helped to transform
Japan into an industrial giant after the war:

What went wrong for Japan's LDP?

"Working closely with bureaucrats and the business sector, the LDP-led
government delivered high growth, ample jobs and a steep rise in living
standards. But cracks emerged when the bubble burst in the early 1990s.
There was a general feeling that the LDP was losing touch and that it wasn't
delivering for everybody. Jobs were no longer for life, a gap emerged
between rich and poor (Singapore has a bigger gap) and demographic change
posed a challenge. Women were having fewer babies (Singaporeans are having
even fewer children) and the population was ageing - with serious
implications for social security.
Reform was needed but the close bureaucratic and business links that had
benefited the LDP also served to constrain it (The PAP govt has even wider
links to GLCs & businesses than the LDP). Efforts foundered in the face of
entrenched vested interests (whose interest has the PAP been serving?
Economic stake holders or the citizens who vote). Part of the problem was
that the LDP was slow to get things done, because it was trying to keep a
variety of interest groups happy."

The lesson here is very simple. To win and maintain the support of the
people, govts have to serve the interest of the ordinary citizens and
nothing else. Once a govt becomes entangled and its interest becomes
diversified it risks losing support.

posted by LuckySingaporean

Thursday, August 27, 2009

Melissa Faith Yeo - breast surgery pics

From: beng1 <5191 ...="""">
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2009 06:53:03 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Thurs, Aug 27 2009 9:53 pm
Subject: Melissa Faith Yeo - breast surgery pics ( Be warned: disturbing pics)

Melissa Faith Yeo (born December 12, 1985 in Singapore) is a
Singaporean model and beauty queen. Melissa Faith Yeo is pursuing a
degree in Communication and English Studies at UniSIM. She has done
commercials and ads for Starhub, I-weekly magazine, Fujifilm Z10
camera, The Breeze condo, Lee Hwa Jewellery (vignette), Caltex,
McDonald's McGriddles, Eu Yan Sang bird's nest, Emirates Airlines,
Electrolux home appliances and Canon Selphy printer.

Tuesday, August 25, 2009

Why won't they give me an opportunity

From: Zanzibar
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2009 08:02:35 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Tues, Aug 25 2009 11:02 pm
Subject: Re: Another tough life in LHL's Eden

On Aug 25, 10:17 pm, "truth" wrote:

> "Why won't they give me an opportunity?"
> Tuesday, 25 August 2009, 1:47 pm | 810 views

> The worst is over for the Singapore economy and the labour market has
> stabilised, Prime Minister Lee Hsien Loong said in his National Day Rally
> speech. (Straits Times)

> "Now the eye of the storm has passed.. Our labour situation has stabilised.
> Unemployment is not too high. Companies - some of them are hiring again,
> although still not in large numbers. Third quarter should be all right."
> (PMO)

> The Prime Minister's reassurance brings little comfort to Nur (not her real
> name). What she faces is not unemployment through retrenchment but
> discrimination at the work place. Nur, 28, a single mother with a seven-year
> old daughter, works as an admin staff in a local company. In the last eight
> months, she was twice asked to leave her jobs as her employers did not want
> to extend her contract. Now Nur may again be asked to leave her third job
> this year.

> You see, Nur is a kidney patient. She first discovered she had kidney
> problems in both her kidneys in 2005. Since then, she has had to visit the
> dialysis centre, run by the National Kidney Foundation, three times a week,
> each time spending four hours in dialysis treatment. She does this in the
> evenings, after work, on Mondays, Wednesdays and Fridays. She starts work at
> 8.30am and finishes at 6pm. In order to be on time for her treatment, she
> leaves work half an hour earlier, at 5.30pm. It was this which her employers
> found disagreeable. "They told me that since I cannot be around all the time
> they cannot extend my contract," Nur explained, visibly upset. With a four
> hour treatment, she sometimes ends up reaching home close to midnight, and
> has little time to spend with her daughter.

> She works on a contract basis and has had to endure her contracts not being
> renewed several times this year, even though her employers did not find her
> work performance lacking.

> Such experiences with employers have led her to lie during job interviews
> when she looked for new jobs. "If I tell them the truth, they will not hire
> me," she says. And even when she is successful in her job applications, she
> would continue to make up excuses in order to go for her treatment. "I would
> tell them I need to fetch my daughter from school," she says. . "I have to
> work because I need to give [money] to my mother and I have to take care of
> my daughter," she adds.

> Once, after she had been on the job for two months, she decided to tell her
> manager the truth - and she ended up losing her job.

> So why doesn't she make arrangements with the centre to start her dialysis
> later so that she doesn't have to leave her workplace half an hour early?
> The problem is that dialysis sessions do not always start on time, Nur
> explains. For example, during the recent H1N1 outbreak, sessions at the
> centre were delayed as precautionary measures had to be adhered to. This
> meant that Nur would end her dialysis much later, almost around midnight.

> "It is very tiring, you know?" she says. She explains that already with the
> travelling to the centre and then onwards to her home, the entire process
> would take a total of close to six hours. She goes to bed past midnight but
> has to wake up at 6.30am to prepare to go to work again.

> In the last job which she was asked to leave, her employer recruited another
> person to replace her. To Nur, this showed that it was not because the
> company needed to cut staff to save cost or that her performance was
> unsatisfactory, but that the company was discriminating against her because
> of her medical condition. In fact, several of her former employers had given
> this as their reasons for not renewing her contract.

> In August, her supervisor informed her that the company may not renew her
> current contract. When she asked if the company was unhappy with her
> performance, her supervisor said no, but did not elaborate further.

> In desperation, Nur went to see her Member of Parliament during his
> Meet-The-People session. He promised to get back to her but did not. When
> she visited him a second time, she was told by the MP's assistants, "Sorry.
> MP cannot help you." She was then advised to look for a job herself.

> Nur has tried looking for a 9-to-5 job but she has not been successful so
> far. With the current economic situation, her search is made harder.

> Several weeks ago, she approached the Community Development Council (CDC)
> for help but was told that they were not able to find her a job. The CDC
> advised her to wait and that she will be informed if it comes across any
> available jobs for her.

> As she shows me the fremitus or thrill embedded in her left arm, above the
> elbow, a device which makes it easier to locate small veins in patients, Nur
> explains that she hardly misses work. This is because as a contract worker,
> she only gets paid when she shows up at the office. "This is why I'll force
> myself to go to work even when I'm sick," she says.

> For now, she is at her wits' end. Nur yearns for stability in her job so
> that she can better manage her life, and care for her daughter. All she
> seeks is a fair opportunity from employers and for understanding. "Why won't
> they give me an opportunity?" she asks.

Why can't she use her brain properly... the simple way to think out of
the box... is to find a job that is near to her house, and near to the
dailysis centre.

Singapore has never been a secular state

From: Frankie Lee
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2009 18:59:16 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Wed, Aug 26 2009 9:59 am
Subject: Singapore in reality has never been a secular state.

In order that religious organisation don't become too large
that they can stand up to challenge the secular nature of
the state.....A nut wrote.

Frank’s comments: We must root out all Religious organisations which
were too big, that will stand against us as a secular state, where a
dictator rule is a better option. This is the time we must break our
commitments to religious harmony by imposing laws, restricting the
freedom and the exercise of religious activities that burn papers
which dirtied our environment for many decades, at the expense of our

We must have another intervention into the Opposition Parties lest
they become too big and threatened our PAP leadership.

We must curb internet chat rooms, ban all Youtube, and restrict free
speech in greater measures. Intruding into all privacies of all
Singaporean bank accounts, associations and their memberships to clubs
or organizations.

It is time we should pass Laws, that in order to continue one Party
rules here, only PAP is the government forever, and no opposition
Parties should be allowed to fight in elections anymore, and all
Singaporean should be obeisance to our secular Party rules.

Every activity of all citizens must be monitored, where they go and
what they eat, and how they shit.

No organization should stand up to our secular rules, for we cannot be
challenged, because we will never be accountable to our people, and we
can do what we want. No challenged, and no Contest ever.

Yes, we want to keep it that way, a secular state, status quo.No
opposition party will ever succeed here, nor can they be ever to grow
big to challenge us.

***Do you know why Oppo cannot succeed and should not succeed here in
Singapore?They are trying to be dumb.Low and Chiam could be considered
as already merging with one party system.

Sunday, August 23, 2009

The Singapore Pledge Debate

From: Peter Lye
Date: Sun, 23 Aug 2009 11:21:18 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Mon, Aug 24 2009 2:21 am
Subject: The Singapore Pledge Debate

The Singapore Pledge Debate

The Singapore pledge has moved from becoming a daily ritual during my
school days to grow on my altruistic ensemble over the years. I heard
somethings about a parliamentary debate on the pledge on the car radio
shook pulled my other part of my body from my bed a few kilometers
away. No danger was my wife was driving and I was desperately trying
to catch up on lost sleep.

I decided not to read a singe shred of this topic so that I can form
my own opinion unadulterated by you reporters and journalists alike.
No pun intended. Up to now, I have kept this faith and will launch
into penning my thoughts on such topics in an unadulterated manner.

To me the pledge represents a couple of things namely:

a. A state that we would like to arrive at at year X in the future.
b. A common compass to point us towards the year X destination.
c. A common moral goal post for a secular society polarized across
various divider like race, religion, language and social standing.
d. Justice is blind and fair. (the lady with a blindfold on top of old
supreme court has always caught my attention). Not the woman but the
concept it conveys.

Singapore is a young nation whether you use 1819 or 1959 or 1965 as
birth years. Not only that, the multi-ethnic composition right from
the start did not help and a sprinkling of riotous events along racial
and religious lines did not help. It seems that the low flash point
thinner to glue the society together as one never had a chance and the
low flash point thinners were used in the raw with disastrous results
as we look back using our rear view mirror and hopefully wiser.

On why the pledge written by Rajaratnam and revised by Lee Kuan Yew
should stay the way it is to allow it to sink deeper roots a few more
generations for it to be internalized in the future generations. I am
not suggesting that we continue on a track and not change it for old
time sick to bring us all into destruction. By not changing the pledge
which we have very little reasons to do so after such a short period
will transmit to the younger generation the meaning of sacredness and
longevity of some of our institutions. Seeing my two kids grow up and
the youths that I interact with, it seems that we need not worry about
them adopting to the fast changing environment that is becoming second
skin to many of them but to root them in the areas that needs
longevity together with their dynamism transform Singapore into unique
society in the world and no longer the little red dot as we are
commonly known as.

On the question of equality, there seems to be an existing dichotomy
like granting the Malays in Singapore certain special privileges. And
if I read it correctly, the ruling party might be concerned that the
pledge might be used as instrument to rally SIngaporean into one be
made to polarized the nation and allow racial overtones color our
largely islamic and Malay geographical neighbors. Many countries like
New Zealand, USA, Canada,Malaysia and Australia practices some form of
first nation rights to certain groups to varying degrees.

This could also have been prompted by religious activism world wide
and this worries me too and in a secular society, we should at all
times be able to live as one people with different races, religion and
practices. Tolerances, understanding, and respect shall be hall marks
by which we live by.

Peter Lye aka
Safe Harbor. Please note that information contained in these pages are
of a personal nature and does not necessarily reflect that of any
companies, organizations or individuals. In addition, some of these
opinions are of a forward looking nature. Lastly the facts and
opinions contained in these pages might not have been verified for
correctness, so please use with caution. Happy Reading. Peter Lye

Olivia Lum - A whole happy and sad story

From: "AleXX"
Date: Sun, 23 Aug 2009 15:29:45 +0800
Local: Sun, Aug 23 2009 3:29 pm
Subject: Olivia Lum - A whole happy and sad story

Like many successful business women, she is right at the top (and much
better than Ho Jinx).

But on a more personal sad note, her life is "hollow". She is rich and
single and everyday she goes back to her house and not a home.

On Aug 23, 10:18 pm, "AleXX" wrote:

> "Politikus" wrote in message

- Born in 1961, she is now 48 yrs. old and still single.

So you think...that she cannot find a mate ?
You are wrong.

Nowadays...the world of woman executives
is unlike the times of their mothers.

Female executives nowadays choose ...yes..choose to
stay single. To them, staying single do NOT mean
loneliness...without sex life.
Most female executives enjoy a full social life, just like
their male counterpart...with different male escorts
and a very active sex life.

Only foolish dumb-dumb...have the idea..that nightly
they return home alone...wasting away alone in

Why marry...when you can have and cake and
eat it.

Singapore = Expensive and LOW pay

From: Zanzibar
Date: Sat, 22 Aug 2009 11:14:23 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Sun, Aug 23 2009 2:14 am
Subject: Re: Singapore = Expensive and LOW pay

On Aug 22, 11:35 am, "truth" wrote:

> truth comment: another reality in lhl's eden has emerged.sincity is not
> only expensive but the workers are exploited.
> Want that iPod faster? Work in Tokyo then

> SINGAPORE may be the second most expensive city in Asia after Tokyo,
> but employees here are only the fifth highest wage earners in the region, a
> study has found.

> To indicate wage levels, the UBS survey looked at how long a person
> has to work to buy an 8GB iPod nano player,

> In Singapore, it takes 27.5 hours - but in Tokyo it takes 12 hours,
> and in Hong Kong it takes 19 hours.

> On a global scale, Singapore ranked 40th in terms of gross wages, down
> two notches from 38th in 2006, the last time the study was conducted.

> In 18th place worldwide, Tokyo workers are Asia's highest earners,
> followed by Hong Kong (37th, up from 40th in 2006), Seoul (38th, down from
> 32nd), Taipei (39th, from 36th), Singapore, Shanghai (59th, same as in
> 2006), Beijing (64th, from 65th) and Mumbai (73rd, from 67th).

> Compiled in a report titled Prices and Earnings, the findings emerged
> from surveys conducted in March and April by local UBS employees, members of
> student organisation AIESEC, chambers of commerce, consumer organisations
> and selected individuals.

> The wage and salary data covers 14 different occupations including
> building labourer, engineer, cook, bank credit officer and primary school
> teacher. They represent a cross-section of the workforce in the industrial
> and services sectors.

> Employees in Copenhagen, Zurich, Geneva and New York have the highest
> gross wages, in that order. In contrast, the average employee in Delhi,
> Manila, Jakarta and Mumbai earns less than one-fifteenth of Swiss hourly
> wages after tax.

> In terms of cost of living, excluding rent, Oslo remains the most
> expensive city in the world, followed by Zurich and Copenhagen. The prices
> were calculated based on a reference basket of 122 different products and
> services. London dropped dramatically to 21st position, from the second most
> expensive city in 2006. Singapore was ranked the 24th most expensive
> globally, up from 32nd position in 2006.

> People in Asia and the Middle East generally spend more hours at work
> than those in Europe. On average, Singapore employees work 2,088 hours a
> year - higher than the global average of 1,902.

> 'Overall, the most hours are worked in Cairo (2,373 per year),
> followed by Seoul (2,312),' the UBS report said. 'Workers in Doha, Dubai and
> Manama also rack up long hours, averaging 2,210 per year - 308 more than the
> international average.

> 'There are significant differences within regions, too. Employees work
> considerably more in Hong Kong (2,295 hours) and Seoul (2,312 hours) than in
> Tokyo (1,997 hours) and Shanghai (1,946 hours).'

> The survey was conducted in 73 cities.

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Well, this is a very good and simple way to indicate wage levels is by
looking at how long a person has to work to buy an 8GB iPod nano

In similar vein, we should be able to carry out a survey on MIw
income in buying a high end condomimium worth, say, 1.5 million

For the president and MM, they can buy 2 condo each year. For the Pm,
he will be able to own 2 condo per year, too. For the Minsters,
earning between 1 to 3 million, they will be able to 1 or 2 condo,

If each Ministers work for 20 years they wil be abl to own at least a
bungalow worth 10 milllion each.

If there is 2 cycles of change of ministers, there will be twice the
number of available bungalows will be held by them. By the 5th cycles
of change of ministers and below, nearly all the available in
Singapore will be owned by them and the rich people. There will
nothgin left for the poor and middle income or the not-so-rich to
reach or aim for.anymore at all.

A Muslim woman wife of Singaporean to be caned in Malaysia

From: "truth"
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 12:56:41 GMT
Local: Fri, Aug 21 2009 8:56 pm
Subject: Re: A Muslim woman, wife of Singaporean, to be caned..for in Malaysia....

If the woman is Ho Jinz, I bet LKY will send in the F16
to flatten KL.

"prophet Muhammud the Child Fucker" wrote in

whart can Lee Kuan Yew do ?

Lee Kuan Yew even kisses Than Shwee ' s ass.

n Aug 21, 2:13 pm, "truth" wrote:

> So long as it does not affect their interests, these pap
> multi$million nincompoops are not bothered.

> "baldeagle" wrote in message


> > The Muslim wife of a Singaporean is in the news around the
> > CNN, Associated Press, Telegraph,...and others the first woman
> > to be caned in SE Asia...for drinking beer.

> > Apparently, the Foreign ministry of Singapore pretend not to know.
> > Beer drinking, a social practice common in the USA, in Europe and in
> > more advanced countries in against the Muslim Law...the law
> > in Malaysia.;.
> > In fact, beer drinking is as common as drinking coke, coffee or tea.
> > Cannot understand why it is immoral to drink beer in certain primitive
> > society....they certainly have weird customs. It is laughable...

Saturday, August 22, 2009

How Much is Ho Ching Paid for Losing 40 Billion?

From: Frankie
Date: Sat, 22 Aug 2009 02:48:29 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Sat, Aug 22 2009 5:48 am
Subject: Re: How Much is Ho Ching Paid for Losing 40 Billion?

On Aug 22, 11:04 am, "AleXX" wrote:

> This cunt is untouchable. She is above the law. She is regarded as the 5th
> most powerful woman on planet earth. The Son, the Father and the Holy Goh
> got no match with her. She is a the Holy Cunt of the FamiLee.

> "Curios Cat" wrote in message

> >I am always curious how much is Ho Ching paid as a CEO? Did she get a bonus
> > for losing money? Who are the people advising her? Are these people paid a
> > commission for putting together the 40 Billion loss? In the corporate she
> > an
> > her team would be banished to Siberia for a fraction of such a collosal
> > loss. How come she is still around?

***Why must you tell everybody,an obnoxious and vulgar idiot you are?
Didn't you know,by being such an asshole,you will lose every
creditability in all your otherwise sane messages.

Most decent people will puke at your vulgarities,and only your kinds
will appreciate your lousy comments.

Monday, August 17, 2009

Ignorant ex-Chief Justice Yong Pang How

From: Frankie
Date: Sun, 16 Aug 2009 09:26:52 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Mon, Aug 17 2009 12:26 am

On Aug 16, 11:08 pm, "truth" wrote:

> Most Singaporeans are aware that Yong Pang How was made
> CJ by LKY because of their friendship dating back to their days
> in Cambridge. YPH spend more time in banking and finance than
> in law. Prior to being appointed CJ he was MD of GIC. So when
> he was appointed CJ the legal community and many knowledgeable
> Singaporeans were shocked.
> Now another case has surfaced which prove that CJ Yong Pang
> How was again ignorant of the law when he sit on the bench.
> I quote the following passage from this blog:
> Quote:
> The prosecution appealed for a higher sentence. I took the case to the High
> Court. There I presented to the Chief Justice various arguments for a
> heavier sentence.

> I still remember the first question that Yong Pung How had asked in court.
> He asked, "Why wasn't this man charged for rape?"

> Yong didn't know that the prosecution couldn't do that. He looked slightly
> stunned, when I pointed him to the relevant immunity provision in the Penal
> Code. At first sight, Yong's ignorance of that point was very surprising
> (you would expect the Chief Justice to know better).
> Unquote.

**Hello,if such incidents proved Yong is incompetence,then what about
many other intelligence words and comments which were praised by all
Legal experts?
He has the most commonest sense than most people have.

Ashamed to be Singaporean

From: "lobert"
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2009 21:39:19 +0800
Local: Fri, Aug 14 2009 9:39 pm
Subject: Re: Ashamed to be Singaporean

To reciprocate, the Burmese warlord should issue a statement saying that:
"We are disappointed to learn that Dr. Chee Soon Juan was found guilty of
defaming Lee Kuan Yew, Lee Hsien Loong and Goh Chok Tong or simply by "The
Son-The Father-And the Holy Goh" and was made an undischargeable and
politically inspired bankrupt.

"truth" wrote in message


> Singapore MFA press statement on Daw Aung San Suu Kyi's verdict
> Aug 14th, 2009 11:30
> by dk.
> Five days after Singapore National Day, I actually find myself ashamed as
> a Singaporean after reading Singapore Foreign Affairs Ministry comments on
> Daw Aung San Suu Kyi's verdict

> Press statement by the Ministry of Foreign Affairs:

> We are disappointed to learn that Daw Aung San Suu Kyi was found guilty
> and sentenced to three years hard labour.

> Daw Aung San Suu Kyi did not plan to violate the terms of her house
> arrest, and the intrusion into her house was by a person who appears to be
> of unsound mind.

> We are however happy that the Myanmar Government has exercised its
> sovereign prerogative to grant amnesty for half her sentence and that she
> will be placed under house arrest rather than imprisoned.

> We are heartened that Minister of Home Affairs Major General Maung Oo had
> announced that Daw Aung San Suu Kyi will be allowed to see doctors and
> nurses, communicate with her party, watch local television channels, read
> local newspapers and journals, and can receive visitors with the
> government's permission and that there is a possibility that she could
> receive amnesty for the remainder of her sentence.

> These are significant gestures by the Myanmar Government.

> We hope that the Myanmar Government will allow Daw Aung San Suu Kyi to
> participate in the political process as soon as possible.

> A meaningful dialogue between the Myanmar Government, Daw Aung San Suu
> Kyi and all other political groups in an open and inclusive process of
> national reconciliation is the only hope for the long term political
> stability of the country.

> I am ashamed that my government release such statement while the
> international community condemn the verdict and called for the immediate
> release of Daw Aung San Suu Kyi. Why should we be happy about a reduced
> sentence when she didn't even commit any crimes to begin with?

> But I'm glad that I'm not the only Singaporean who is ashamed of the
> statement by MFA.

> Singapore, as one of the founding member of ASEAN, needs to take a
> stronger stand on this issue.

Evangelical Christians are dangerous

From: wiseguy
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 09:19:23 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Tues, Aug 18 2009 12:19 am
Subject: Re: Evangelical Christians are dangerous

On Aug 17, 3:05 pm, "truth" wrote:
> Evangelical Christians are a dangerous lot. They are the Christian
> equivalent of Muslim terrorists. Like Muslim terrorists, they are
> fanatical in their belief. Anyone who don't share their religion is
> a devil.
> I happened to know of a few younsters from Buddhist and Taoist
> families who were hijacked by Evangelical Christians when they
> went to Institution of Higher Learning. They were converted from
> Buddhist or Taoist into Evangelical Christians. The worst part is
> they now treat their Buddhist and Taoist family members including
> their parents as evil. They even treat some moderate Christians
> who refused to share their extreme views as enemies. They avoided
> the family meals believing that food prepared by non-Christians are
> harmful to their purity. Funny thing is these youngsters are still
> dependent on their parents for daily allowances. Some even succeeded
> in forcing their parents to renouce Buddhism and Taoism.
> Over the years, left unchecked, these aggressive Evangelical
> Christians have made huge inroads into tradional Buddhist and
> Taoist families resulting in many unhappy family as Children turned
> against their parents.
> This is a very dangerous trend which is slowing destroying the
> fabric of the heartland. Very sad indeed.

LOL!!! Dont be sad lah...Most Christians are a nice bunch....The ones
you must hantam up and down; left, right and center; are the
Thiolibans and the snake-oil dealers like Freakie Lee...LOL!!!

More reality in The Singapore Eden

From: Zanzibar
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 09:34:38 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Tues, Aug 18 2009 12:34 am
Subject: Re: More reality in The Singapore Eden

On Aug 17, 10:15 pm, "truth" wrote:

> A couple found dead in Fragrance Hotel last Saturday were married - but not
> to each other.

> According to Shin Min Daily, they were found in one of the hotel rooms on
> level four of the Fragrance Hotel Kovan in Upper Serangoon at about 12 noon
> on Saturday. The Chinese daily also reported that the two Singaporean
> victims are believed to be Xie Ying Shun, 43 and Ye Mei Ting, 39.

> The couple had checked into the hotel on Friday evening, but did not check
> out on time at noon the following day.

> A staff of the hotel called them and knocked on their door several times
> before entering the room with another staff using a spare key.

> According to the staff they encountered a strong burning smell, and caught
> whiffs of super glue when they opened the door.

> Police say that they were informed of the discovery at about 12.10pm. The
> couple had died by the time the ambulance arrived.

> When the bodies were discovered, the woman was naked while the man was
> wearing only under garments. Both are married, and they each have two
> children.

> Deep in debt

> Mr Xie Ying Shun was a business man - he started five companies, including a
> Japanese eatery, a shoe business and three trading companies.

> One of his trading companies that was started in 1987 and his shoe business
> has already folded.

> Shin Min reports that he had borrowed a large sum of money from loan sharks
> after his Japanese eatery closed down and he sold his flat to pay off the
> debts.

> Used to be neighbours

> Lianhe Wanbao reported that Mr Xie lived at Block 576 in Hougang, while Ms
> Ye lived at the neighbouring Block 580.

> After selling his flat, Mr Xie, his wife and their two children then rented
> a room in the same house from the new owner for $800 a month, but they moved
> away after two months without paying the rental in full.

> The new house owner says that they are still harassed by loan sharks, and
> receive his letters as Mr Xie never changed his address.

Why didn't the Govt help this SME. There are many schemes and business
loans from the PSB that can provide entrepreuners with a one-stop

The dead man had so many businessess that he should have got supports
from them. He needs not have to get loan from loan sharks. Was the Pm
knew what went wrong with helping this dead man?

Lee Hsien Loong's great speech

Murata View profile
More options Aug 17, 3:46 pm

From: "Murata"
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 15:46:37 +0800
Local: Mon, Aug 17 2009 3:46 pm
Subject: Re: Lee Hsien Loong's great speech

Man proposes, GOD disposes! The mighty hand of GOD is at work. In cannot
steal something and claim GOD gave to him. The end of the LEE DICTATORSHIP
is near. The writing is already on the wall, that only the blind could not
see !

"Frankie Lee" wrote in message

I sense that this fellow really has a heart and soul for Singapore. I
believe he is trying his best,.. to work hard for the betterment for
all Singaporean. If you don't think so,it is your negative thoughts
playing tricks.

As a whole, he is a very good person, and a very capable leader.I
believes it was remission from that ailment that changed him. I am
extremely honored to be here.

NGOs, Aware’s issues were grossly misunderstood by him. Have we not
forgotten that Johore Road was gone for good? It was an excellent
policy then, and LKY or GCK they made it right.

Sensing the younger Lee could be bullied and trampled upon, Gay
activists had the cheek to want to hold a festival, a parade to boost
their immoral and sexual disorientation, by petitions.Obviously,they
were soundly rejected, but little inroads is being made into NGOs like
Aware, run by Weaklings and who had possessed misplaced compassion for
the outclass.

Women looks like the weaker sex,but their enormous strength in
Childbirth,endurance and sense of proportions has been superb.Women,to
me, virtuous ones are always better than man in many ways.It is like
they have this inbuilt mechanisms of thriftiness, common sense and
discipline, and they are the backbone for any thriving Companies or
Families.Today,women are the front runners and being recognized as the
pioneer for any success in any homes and Families.They have in them, a
kind of Gift/Talent to succeed, and bless with foresight’s skills,
greater than man.

All over the world, most NGOs were founded and established by
Christian principles.Normally it is run by Christians, fighting
injustices in societies, a moral force for any corrupt government,
just like they voice the loudest and made deep impression in UN over
Aung Sun Su Kyi.UN and our world love her,though Myanmar looks
distance away for many living in remote places, and because of human
rights' issue, no one is bothered on her Faith even though she has a
religion different from mine.

Aware corrected many disturbing policies after the intrusion by
Christian leaders here.You mean Christians do not have a voice in a
society like ours?If the relevant Authorities realized earlier what
guidelines were in their policies,they would have done the same thing.

That crazy Lesbian lady,doing TV shows almost weekly here,from USA,
do not raise any eyebrows (here) because she/he did not promote lewd
lifestyles and behavior,although occasionally her dances were like a
man.No matter how distasteful she performed, would anyone complained?

Christians made huge sacrifices to be in line with our governmental
polices, and for safekeeping of our tradition,so they went in and they
got democratically elected.Does our leaders not know how sore losers
in election re-act?

The main premise were---don't promote disoriented versions of family
values here,and for women in particular. Aware is an organisation
which is suppose fighting this very same issue,but instead she herself

I DON'T APPLAUD LSL for making racial harmony a big issue here,and
DEEMED THAT certain sensitive issues which may cause
troubles.Honestly,to me that is the most trivial, if not bogus to the
letter,as if to say certain little troubles will or may spark serious

Safeguarding the goodwill PAP had from the people is most important,
by being( more) fair to citizens, and least of all to Oppo,and
Kaypo.Our leaders have achieved so much for all Singaporean,and who is
he so blind to believe those nonsense,speaking ill on our leadership..
being shove down here?

Racial thing is an issue, but don't get paranoia over it.It is time to
let go and let live.We must preserve our International status as being
a strong city of excellence and fairness,and let those gain-sayers
overseas had nothing to cow-peh daily against our leadership.Everyone
seem to agree that those Oppos have valid points too,and we must take
their suggestion in our strides.

Singapore indeed has become a much better place under the younger Lee.

Use our reserves sparingly to help all of us,…water and elect…bills…
don’t lose 40 billions… again,pls.

Now,this is the most important issue and it concern us all.

Nothing for struggling Singaporeans

From: Damned-Virus-Data Miner providers
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 08:39:46 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Mon, Aug 17 2009 11:39 pm
Subject: Re: Nothing for struggling Singaporeans

On Aug 17, 11:57 am, "truth" wrote:

> There is nothing in the ND speech by LHL.
> He did not even address what concerns the ordinary
> Singaporeans who are locked into a daily struggle
> for survival.
> He is either out of touch or he is not bother by
> the daily struggles of ordinary Singaporeans.

snr pm LKY is running Singapore for anything that had
happened during his time of zhi using 'thiss'
goods to fight the thiss (whitehouse) etc......anything
else still have to ask him and go through him since he is
smartest among all........

Saturday, August 15, 2009

LKY contribution to the political retardation of Singapore

From: "lobert"
Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2009 22:46:35 +0800
Local: Sat, Aug 15 2009 10:46 pm
Subject: Re: LKY contribution to the political retardation of Singapore.

"truth" wrote in message

> When LKY took over power in 1959, he won in a democratic
> election. At that time Indonesia, Thailand, Taiwan and South
> Korea were ruled by ironclad dictators.
> Now these countries are truly democratic where citizens are
> free to demonstrate and express they views and feelings without
> harassments by the authorities. On the other hand Singapore has
> turned from a democratic country into a family dictatorship
> cammouflaged as a one party state.
> This is LKY's contribution to the political progress of Singapore.

Singapore is proud to be within the tripartite dictatorial Asian countries:
Myanmar-North Korean-Singapore

Why r Singaporeans excluded from these scholarships ?

From: "lobert"
Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2009 22:51:37 +0800
Local: Sat, Aug 15 2009 10:51 pm
Subject: Re: Why r Singaporeans excluded from these scholarships ?

"truth" wrote in message

> truth comment: singaporeans have the right to demand
> an answer from the papist leegim as to why singaporeans are
> excluded from these scholarships. who are the papist leegime
> working for ? singaporeans or foreigners ?
> I have a strong interest in Asian legal systems. A few years ago, I even
> considered taking a year off from work, to do a Masters in Law at NUS. I
> checked out the available graduate scholarships at the NUS Law Faculty.
> Alas, almost all the scholarships were reserved for non-Singaporeans.

> That's still the way it is today. See the current list of graduate
> scholarships here:

> (1) Research Scholarship
> (2) Graduate Scholarship for ASEAN Nationals (NUS GSA)
> (3) Faculty Graduate Scholarship (FGS)
> (4) Scholarship for Young Asian Academics
> (5) Microsoft Scholarship

> The 1st scholarship is open to both Singaporean and foreign applicants.
> The 2nd scholarship is open to students from all ASEAN countries, except
> Singaporeans.
> The 3rd scholarship is open to students from anywhere in the world, except
> Singaporeans.
> The 4th scholarship is open to all Asian students, except Singaporeans.
> The 5th scholarship is open to students from anywhere in the world, except
> Singaporeans.

> Is it strange that so many Singaporeans feel marginalised in their own
> country? No, it is not strange at all. It is clear that in our country
> today, citizenship often turns out to be a liability.

It had been legislated and in the Gazette that these scholarships are not
for Singapore citizens. They make laws and you obey.

Wednesday, August 12, 2009

Singapore property market booms despite recession

Today, 12 August, 2009, 7 hours ago
SINGAPORE: Despite Singapore's worst economic slump since independence, the residential property sector is in the midst of a new boom reminiscent of 2007, when the city-state was known as the world's hottest real estate market.

Tuesday, August 11, 2009

What has the pap leegime done to improve ur lives ?

11 August, 2009, 11:13:24 PM | (truth)
Singaporeans should just ask themselves what has the pap leegime
done in the last 10 years to improve their lives.
They should also ask themselves what has the pap leegime done
which have made their lives more difficult.
Also compare your lives now against last year and ask yourself
have your lives improve ?

Goh Chok Tong does not know what he is talking Better to shut up

From: "truth"
Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 13:50:24 GMT
Local: Mon, Aug 10 2009 9:50 pm
Subject: Re: Goh Chok Tong does not know what he is talking. Better to shut up.

The pap Leegime has to prop up the evil Burmese junta in
order to make LKY looks civil when compare to these people.

"labour" wrote in message

> August 7, Irrawaddy
> Suu Kyi is 'part of the problem': Goh Chok Tong - Wai Moe

> Goh Chok Tong, Singapore's former prime minister and current senior
> minister, said on Thursday that Burma's pro-democracy leader Aung San Suu
> Kyi is "part of the problem" facing the military-ruled country. HOW CAN

> Goh told reporters at the Asia-Middle East Media Roundtable in Singapore
> that while the West sees Suu Kyi as the solution to Burma's problems, she
> is also "part of problem" because she believes she is the government,
> according to Singapore's Channel NewsAsia news network. SUU KYI IS LOCKED

> He also suggested Suu Kyi's party, the National League for Democracy
> (NLD), needed to seek a fresh mandate in the 2010 elections, saying that
> Suu Kyi should not dwell on the fact that her party's victory in the 1990
> elections was not recognized by the junta. HER PARTY WON THE ELECTION BUT

> "That was 19 years ago, that's history. PEOPLE ARE STANDING UP FOR
> to be part
> of the solution, she has to offer some concessions, such as to publicly
> say that she would be in favor of the lifting of sanctions," Goh was
> quoted as saying in The Malaysian Insider on Friday.
> On Burma's scheduled elections for next year, Goh said the junta should
> make sure that the elections were "fair, free and legitimate." He added:
> "The process must involve parties that oppose you as well. Aung San Suu
> Kyi must be allowed to participate." THE JUNTA WILL NOT ALLOW THAT. THEY

Saturday, August 8, 2009

Temasek’s big blunder as BOA and Barclays rebound

The mouth-piece of the ruling party, the Straits Times has declared unilaterally today that the state Sovereign Wealth Fund, Temasek Holdings has “recouped a big part of its portfolio losses since a low point in March”. (read full article here)

In an lengthy editorial splashed on the front page, the Straits Times tried desperately to exonerate Temasek’s beleaguered CEO Ho Ching from any blame in the investment losses by hailing her decisions to purchase financial heavyweights such as India’s ICICI Bank, China Construction Bank and Standard Chartered Bank.

The Straits Times “findings” show that much of Temasek’s gains since the end of March have been driven by its exposure to financial firms:

“Take DBS Group Holdings, which has rallied 64.3 per cent during the four-month period. Temasek, which owns 27.8 per cent of the local lender, made a paper gain of more than $2 billion as a result.

Then there is Bank of China, which has surged 50.2 per cent and contributed around US$1.7 billion (S$2.4 billion) in gains to Temasek’s portfolio. The Singapore firm has a 13.8 per cent stake in the Chinese bank.”

However, the Straits Times is surprisingly muted on the share prices of Bank of America and Barclays which have since rebounded.

Temasek under Ho Ching bought shares in Merrill Lynch (later sold to Bank of America) and Barclays at a high last year before selling them at a low somewhere in mid-March this year leading to a catastrophic loss of a few billion dollars.

Temasek’s loss on BoA alone is estimated around US$4.6 billion, or roughly US$1,000 for every single Singaporean citizen. (Source: Asian Sentinel)

A simple calcuation shows that the stock value of Bank of America has increased by more than 200%.

Buffett out-smarted Lee KY and gang

During the crisis, Buffett faced strong criticism for selling puts on stock indices[Link], writing an op-ed calling a buy on the market in Oct 2008[Link] and his purchase of Goldman preferreds. Critics said he lost his touch[ Has Warren Buffett Lost His Touch?]. They were all wrong. Buffett was right, right and right. Those big bets will give him the best quarter ever in at least 2 years.

'[Buffett] has a different view. He has to give returns to his investors year by year. We don't have to. We have to think in terms of the next 10, 20, 30 years. We are buying into something which we intend to keep for the next two, three decades and grow with them.'
- MM Lee

MM Lee got it wrong. Buffett's time horizon is actually forever - whatever he buys, he has the intention to keep them for as long as possible. What Buffett has to do is meet his shareholders ,20,000 of them face to face, every year at the Berkshire annual meeting and answer every single legitimate question they have which is something GIC does not do for its shareholders. Buffett publicly admits all his mistakes and take responsibility for them which is another thing the GIC has never done. All his investment moves are disclosed and that has never hurt his performance while GIC keeps many secrets claiming they will be disadvantaged if people knew what they have been doing. Berkshire is managed by a small group of people no more than the number for fingers you have on your hand while GIC has a staff size of 1000 and Temasek employs 300 people to give us sub-prime performance.
Bloomberg :
Berkshire May Post ‘Blockbuster’ Results by Buffett’s Measure
By Erik Holm

Aug. 6 (Bloomberg) -- Berkshire Hathaway Inc., with a stock portfolio valued at more than $60 billion, may report its best quarter in at least two years using the metric preferred by the firm’s billionaire chairman, Warren Buffett.
About $11 billion in gains in Berkshire’s stocks and a recovery of derivative bets tied to equity markets caused book value, a measure of assets minus liabilities, to reverse after two quarters of declines, according to analysts and investors including Glenn Tongue at T2 Partners LLC. Berkshire is set to report second-quarter results tomorrow.
“It’s going to be a blockbuster,” said Tongue, whose New York-based firm’s largest holding is Berkshire shares. “It may well be the greatest dollar gain in book value in any quarter in the history of the company. Warren Buffett showed extraordinary discipline in the first quarter when all others were losing their heads.”
Buffett, one of the world’s most celebrated stock pickers, this year confessed to investing mistakes that hurt returns over the prior 12 months. Berkshire’s book value per share, the measure highlighted by Buffett in the first sentence of his annual letter to shareholders, has declined in four of the past five quarters, and 2008 marked only the second time since Buffett took over in 1965 that it dropped for a full year.
In his “owner’s manual” for Berkshire shareholders, Buffett says he considers the figure to be an objective substitute for the best measure of the Omaha, Nebraska-based firm’s success: a metric he calls intrinsic value.

Singapore is overpopulated

Subject: Re: Singapore is overpopulated

> Yes Singapore is now so overcrowded. It is overpopulated
> with huge influx of foreigners.
> So all these talks about Singaporeans not producing enough
> babies are pure rubbish. If a country is over populated, why
> is there a need to increase the birth rate ?
> Then why are the papist constantly talking about the low
> birth rate ?
> The papist real motive in raising this issue is to psycho Singaporeans
> into subconsciously accepting the huge inflow of foreigners which
> the papist intended to continue and possibly increase.These huge
> inflow of foreigners work to the benefits of the papist but adversely
> affected the lives of Singaporeans. Foreigners make governing
> Singapore easier. Foreigners give competition to Singaporeans.
> Foreigners support the papist. Foreigners depressed wages and
> thus make the papist companies highly profitable.Foreigners
> will lead to economic growth which don't necessarily benefit
> Singaporeans.
> If the papist really cares for Singaporeans, then they should
> introduced measures to protect Singaporeans just like so many
> other democratic countries like Australia. They will grow the
> economy differently. Instead of relying on injection of labour to
> grow the economy, they should have look into ways to improve
> productivity. The papist are either lazy or incapable. They always
> chose the easy way out of their problem.

Thursday, August 6, 2009


CORRUPTION IN SINGAPORE: The PAP regime has always said that it runs Singapore in a corrupt free environment. This is true only in as far as rules for the average Singaporean is concerned. There is another set of laws for PAP officials.

THE HPL SAGA -- Part 1: All in the FamiLEE

The Hotel Properties Limited episode that sparked off a political storm in Singapore in 1996 has been buried alive by the PAP. But its ghost will continue to haunt those involved.

It all started when the Stock Exchange of Singapore (SES) censured a publicly listed property development company called Hotel Property Ltd (HPL) for not seeking shareholders' approval for the sale of some of its condominium developments at a discount price.

Dr Lee Suan Yew, Lee Kuan Yew's younger brother, was on the board of directors of the company. He had purchased a unit in a condominium project developed by HPL called Nassim Jade.

Shareholders of HPL had been grumbling about the way business was conducted in the company especially when it came to dealings with the Lee family. Many of the shareholders were waiting to buy units at the said project. When the launch of the property never came to pass, the shareholders saw red and demanded an explanation.

The stock exchange authorities quickly announced that HPL had breached regulations. One day later, Lee Kuan Yew and his son, Lee Hsien Loong, publicly revealed that they too had bought HPL condominiums. The story made headlines and started tongues wagging. The story was then traced back to one Ong Beng Seng, a property tycoon in Singapore, and Managing Director of HPL.

Ong had developed two condominium projects at the choiciest districts of Singapore. One was the abovementioned Nassim Jade situated where opulent and expansive embassies and mansions were located around Nassim Road. The other, Scotts 28, was at the heart of Singapore's shopping and tourist district Scotts Road. Both projects consisted of condominum apartments valued at millions of dollars per unit before the property slump.

More red faces. It was also revealed that not only had Lee Kuan Yew, his brother and his son purchased these apartments, they were offered substantial discounts to boot. The apartments were due to be put on sale on the open market on 17 April 1995. Three days before the official launch, HPL conducted a "soft launch" where a select group of potential customers were invited to have first go at the apartments. This was not exactly an unheard of practice amongst property developers. The problem was that because HPL was a publicly listed company, it had shareholders to account to. Rules under the SES Manual Listing stated that approval had to be sought for transactions involving "connected persons" of the company involved and those persons' associates. The HPL did not seek the permission of its shareholders. Suan Yew, Lee's brother, was a non-executive director of the company.

At the soft launch, Madam Kwa Geok Choo, chose an apartment to buy. She was quoted a price of $3,578,260 (or $1,583 per square foot) for the apartment. This was a seven percent discount on the list price. Buyers at soft launches are usually given only a five percent discount.

Later, Kwa Geok Choo contacted her son, Hsien Loong, and told him of the Nassim Jade apartments upon which he called Aunty Pamelia Lee, wife of Uncle Suan Yew, and said that he and his wife, Ho Ching, were interested in buying the property as well. Aunty Pamelia then later came back to her nephew and offered him an apartment for $3,645,100 a discount of 12 per cent or $437,412 on the asking price. The Deputy Prime Minister accepted the offer.

This was not all. On the Scotts 28 condiminiums, similar offers and purchases were made. Lee Kuan Yew and son bought two more units and paid $2,791,500 and $2,776,400 respectively for them, each bagging a five percent discount.

All in all, Lee Kuan Yew received from HPL a total of $416,252 whilst Lee Junior got $643,185 in discounts. All the purchases amounted to more than $10 million and were carried out without mortgages and loans.

It must be remembered that all this while, decisions of sales and the discounts were carried out at the directors' level which involved Lee Suan Yew. None of the shareholders nor the SES had the slightest idea of what was going on.

And yet, this was just the tip of the iceberg.

It was later found out that Lee Kuan Yew's entire family was in on the purchases. Daughter Lee Wei Ling, a medical doctor in a government hospital; sister Lee Kim Mon; and his two other brothers Freddy and Dennis; Kwa Kim Li, a niece of Lee; and Gloria Lee, Lee's sister in law, all bought the condos at hefty discounts. Wei Ling bought two apartments at Nassim Jade and was reported to have sold one off for a tidy profit. Again, all these transactions were carried out without the approval of the shareholders of HPL.

Shareholders' anger. News was leaking out about the Lee family's purchases of the HPL condominiums and the shareholders were getting increasingly alarmed and disgruntled. When pressure was brought to bear on the management, HPL decided to belatedly seek the approval of its shareholders a full eleven months later.

The SES had no choice but to issue a statement censuring HPL for the breach of regulations. It noted that some of the discounts given to directors and their relatives in respect of the Nassim Jade units were higher than those given to non-related buyers and that the publicly listed companies have a duty to obtain the best price so as to maximise the return to its shareholders.

Unanswered questions. In spite of this, there was no investigation nor inquiry, merely a censure for the company. Meanwhile, Lee Suan Yew quietly resigned as a director with HPL.

To date, many questions remain unanswered:
1. Who made the decisions to sell the apartments at such discounts to the Lee family?
2. Who authorised Pamelia Lee to sell the units to her relatives?
3. How many more relatives or friends, apart from those readily identifiable, bought the units through such connections?
4. Why did Ong Beng Seng, owner of HPL, offer the units, and presumably the discounts, to the Lee family?
5. Why was there no enquiry into Lee Suan Yew's involvement in affair?

Wednesday, August 5, 2009

Low birth rate worries PM

From: Zanzibar
Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2009 02:54:14 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Wed, Aug 5 2009 5:54 pm
Subject: Re: low birth rate worries PM

On Aug 5, 4:10 pm, (Polar Bear) wrote:
> Why does he need to be worried? he already has the solution to the problem, the
> best of 1.3 billion Chinese and 1 billion Indians are there for him to cherry
> pick.

> Kudos to women but low birth rate worries PM
> by By Lee Hui Chieh
> PRIME Minister Lee Hsien Loong lauded women here yesterday for having made
> tremendous progress in the last few decades, and for their contributions to
> Singapore's development.

> But their advancement has brought unintended and worrying consequences,
> including late marriage and falling marriage and birth rates, he said.

> "The Government has been watching these trends with growing concern, and has
> been taking baby steps to do something about this," he said, speaking to 600
> women leaders at a meeting of the Asia-Pacific Economic Cooperation (Apec) Women
> Leaders Network yesterday.

> The Government has introduced measures to encourage parenthood, such as longer
> maternity leave and baby bonuses, but, despite these, the total fertility rate
> has remained at a very low 1.28.

> Mr Lee said: "What this means is one husband, one wife, 1.28 children. Next
> generation, 0.64 husband, 0.64 wife, and we are disappearing.

> "So, we are far below replacement level."

> The Prime Minister is the second senior Cabinet minister to speak about this
> issue.

> Just three days ago, Senior Minister Goh Chok Tong listed falling marriage and
> birth rates as one of the 10 challenges that Singapore faces.

> Yesterday, Mr Lee noted that education has helped more women enter universities,
> work in senior positions and participate in politics.

> For example, women now make up 55 per cent of the university intake here.

> The proportion of Members of Parliament who are female has also increased from
> less than 5 per cent to almost a quarter now.

> This has made women more financially independent and more inclined to prioritise
> their careers over other aspects of their lives, Mr Lee said.

> But some men's attitudes may not have changed quickly enough, resulting in a
> mismatch of men and women's expectations.

> So Singaporeans are marrying late, or not at all.

> And when they do get married, they have fewer children.

> The problems are not unique to Singapore and the country does not have all the
> solutions, Mr Lee said yesterday, but "like everyone else, we have to evolve
> with the times, and we hope to learn from one another".

> He said that the Government would continue to encourage pro-family policies and
> flexi-work arrangements.

> "Perhaps, eventually, we will find a new formula in society which enables young
> people to fulfil their aspirations and, at the same time, have families and
> children, and live complete, fulfilling lives," he added.

They have been saying these same things for the last 40 years at
national day speeches.

It shows that the Govt has not studied enough of the needs and wants
on why these couples refused to get married, and if they do, they
refused to have children, and if they do have, they refused to have
more than 1.

By blaming that other countries are having the same problems is not a
good excuse to apply in this uniquely Singapore.

This is because we have the resources to create ways unique from any
country in meeting those unique problems of expectations and wants
that Singaporeans constantly faced in this perpetual suffocating red
dot crowded system.

The long term cost benefits of having home-grown children and home-
bred chidlren are so high (than those imports) that I can give them or
met them all, if I am the PM,

Credit card law is stacked against the people

From: "truth"
Date: Wed, 05 Aug 2009 13:22:32 GMT
Local: Wed, Aug 5 2009 9:22 pm
Subject: Credit card law is appalling

truth comment: the case of liability in unauthorised use of the
credit card again shows the law and regulation in singapore
are stacked against the small people and consumer. no where
in the world are consumers made to bear the full responsibility
of lost due to unauthorised use of stolen credit card except

It's appalling

THAT is the verdict of the Consumers Association of Singapore (Case)
after a recent random test by The New Paper revealed shocking lapses at
At four out of the five retail outlets, no one bothered to check the
signatures on the bills. No one asked why two Chinese women were charging
expenses to a credit card bearing an Indian name.

Case's executive director, Mr Seah Seng Choon, said: 'The interests of
consumers is compromised because of the lack of due diligence on the part of
the retailers.

'It clearly shows the absence of checks by retailers in the cases

The ease with which these unauthorised transactions took place
highlighted a liability issue that has been brought up recently by the
plight of 39-year-old Madam Tan Shock Ling, whose wallet was stolen.

By the time the human resource administration manager discovered and
reported the loss of all seven of her credit cards, the thieves had chalked
up $17,100 in unauthorised transactions. This happened 'in less than an
hour', as shown from the credit card slips.

And the banks say they are liable only for unauthorised transactions
made after they are notified of the cards' loss.

This is the case with most banks here, verified the Association of
Banks in Singapore, which regulates the Code of Consumer Banking Practice.

According to ABS, there is a three-way agreement among the bank,
customer and the merchant concerned. It works like this: 'The bank agrees to
pay the merchant on behalf of the customer, and the customer agrees to pay
the bank back.'

But it appears to be the customer who has to bear most of the
responsibility. And mind you, there are more credit cards than people in

According to the Monetary Authority of Singapore (MAS), there were
more than five million credit cards among a population of about 4.5 million
in 2007.
The police said the total number of credit card fraud cases per year
has increased from 193 in 2004 to 264 last year.
Credit card fraud still low

However, an MAS spokesman said that the ' incidence of credit card
fraud in Singapore is among the lowest in the world and has been declining
since 2003'.
Whatever the case, the consumer is the one who loses, even when
merchants don't bother to check cards that are presented.

Madam Tan told The New Paper: 'I'm not saying the cardholder should be
absolved from any liability, but there is a lack of liability on the part of
the retailer, when they don't do their duty in even checking the signature.'

According to Case, the retailer should check the signature on the card
with that on the payment slip 'at the very least'.

Mr Seah suggested: 'It might also be better for the retailer to
request identification of the consumer who is using the card, especially if
the transaction amount is large.'

Another victim of credit card theft, Mr Ng Kin Foong, 25, said:
'Retailers here should certainly step up their efforts.'

The recent university graduate was robbed at gunpoint in New York
three years ago, and had his phone and wallet with an American credit card

The difference is, he did not need to worry about payment of
unauthorised transactions, though he could not immediately report the card's
loss to the bank.

In the US, federal law limits cardholder liability to US$50 ($70). And
this is not just a practice in the US alone.

Malaysia's central bank, Bank of Negara, limits consumer liability to
RM200 ($80) after a card is stolen.

A spokesman from the Office of Fair Trading, the UK's consumer and
competition authority, told The New Paper that 'credit card issuers are
jointly liable with merchants'.

In Australia, the Electronic Funds Transfer Code of Conduct stipulates
that cardholders have no liability for unauthorised transactions. But not so
in Singapore.
ABS told The New Paper: 'This helps to avoid moral hazard...

'If the customers suffer no loss, it felt they would have no incentive
to be careful or to report lost cards promptly.'

Incentives for merchants?

Yes, but our experiment seems to show that the merchants have no
incentive now to be careful or to do their best to prevent fraud.

In response to queries from The New Paper regarding possible
improvements to the current credit system, MAS acknowledged that handwritten
signatures 'have serious limitations in preventing card fraud'.

MAS said it is 'reviewing the implications for Singapore' of
developments in newer and safer card technology such as the chip-and-PIN
systems used in Britain and most of Western Europe.

But in the meantime, we should set a limit on the loss the consumer
has to bear when his card is stolen and used fraudulently.

'Retailers should alert banks before approving credit card
transactions over $1,000,' suggested Madam Tan.

Mr Ng said: 'It would be good to have at least some form of compulsory
secondary identification checks by retailers for all transactions made with
credit cards.'

He has been asked to produce secondary identification in the US but
not here.

Singapore ranks quite high in credit card ownership globally. (see
So, surely it's time we did something about this 'appalling'

Research by Hoe Pei Shan, newsroom intern
Other countries cap loss on stolen cards:

Why can't we?

The Electronic Funds Transfer Code of Conduct stipulates that
cardholders have no liability for all unauthorised transactions.

There is also a Consumer Credit Code that governs all credit
transactions taking place in Australia, which introduces standardisation.

Malaysia's central bank, Bank of Negara, limits consumer liability to
RM200 ($82) after a card is stolen.

A spokesman from the Office of Fair Trading, the UK's consumer and
competition authority, told The New Paper that 'credit card issuers are
jointly liable with merchants.'

There is also a Consumer Credit Act, which states that cardholders are
not liable for unauthorised transactions beyond £30 ($72).

a.. IN THE US:
In the US, federal law limits cardholder liability to USD$50 ($72).

The Association of Banks in Singapore, which regulates the Code of
Consumer Banking Practice, says that with most banks, card-members are
liable for transactions effected before the bank is notified of the
loss/theft of the card.

Tuesday, August 4, 2009

Without Lee Kuan Yew...

From: "AleXX"
Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2009 22:35:56 +0800
Local: Tues, Aug 4 2009 10:35 pm
Subject: Without Lee Kuan Yew...

Singapore will be like this...

Even George Yeo lies

From: "truth"
Date: Wed, 05 Aug 2009 04:43:49 GMT
Local: Wed, Aug 5 2009 12:43 pm
Subject: Even George Yeo lies

truth comment: george yeo is one of the better and enlightened
minister in the leegime. but after so many years in the company
of liars and cheats, george is turning into one of them as well.

John Moe

I refer to the article published by The Online Citizen (TOC) on Sunday, 2
August 2009, reported by Ravi Philemon under the title, "George Yeo's Meet
the People Session at McDonald's".

According to the TOC report, Mr Yeo made some controversial comments about
Burma's pro-democracy icon, Daw Aung San Suu Kyi, her husband and her
family, including the much-loved father of Aung San Suu Kyi- Burma's
independence leader, General Aung San.

According to Ravi Philemon's report :

"The focus then shifted to ASEAN and Daw Aung San Suu Kyi. Mr. George Yeo
said, "It is very sad that she has been imprisoned for so many years." But
he was quick to add that we must not oversimplify the problems in Burma. He
felt that as the country was very complex in its make up with the Burmese
making up only about 50% of the total population of the entire population of
Burma, only the military could hold the entire country together. He added
that it was the military that had ruled Burma from independence and that it
was Aung San Suu Kyi's father, General Aung San, that was the original
military man that had ruled the country since independence."

General Aung San, the leader of Burma's independence movement, was
assassinated on 19 July 1947. Burma's first constitution was established in
1948. Therefore Mr Yeo's incoherent comments were completely incorrect. The
Burmese military did not rule the country "since independence", as Mr Yeo

Chronically, Burma was a fully democratic republic from 1948 to 1962. On 4
January 1948, the nation became an independent republic, named the Union of
Burma, with Sao Shwe Thaik as its first President and U Nu as its first
Prime Minister.

Why does Mr Yeo owe an apology to Aung San Suu Kyi? Mr Yeo said "that it was
also General Aung San who created the rule that a Burmese who married a
foreigner cannot rule the country and that now Aung San Suu Kyi is married
to a foreigner."

Mr Yeo is thoroughly mistaken.

The 1948 Constitution stated: "No person shall be eligible for election to
the office of President unless he is a citizen of the Union who was, or both
of whose parents were, born in any of the territories included within the
Union." Aung San Suu Kyi's parents were both Burmese. She was born in Burma
and she is still a Burmese citizen. Therefore she can be President of Burma,
as stated in the Consitution.

Mr Yeo's comment is thus a great insult to Aung San Suu Kyi and her family.
Also, Mr Yeo, who is Singapore's Foreign Minister, has insulted over 52
million Burmese who hold the highest respect for General Aung San.

As Burma's first constitution was established only in 1948, after General
Aung San had been murdered, it is impossible for General Aung San to create
a rule to ban any Burmese who married a foreigner from ruling the country
. The military junta only introduced the rule in 2008, deliberately
aimed at preventing Aung San Suu Kyi's participation in the 2010 elections.

Mr Yeo would have Burmese adhere to the Constitution which was first
suspended when General Ne Win came to power through a coup, and which was
later amended by the junta for political purposes. Equally, should not Mr
Yeo be demanding that the Burmese junta adhere to the results of the 1990
elections which Aung San Suu Kyi's NLD won overwhelmingly?

Mr Yeo's comments, which shows his ignorance of Burmese history, has added
fuel to the fire, especially at a time when Aung San Suu Kyi is in a
politically-motivated mock trial for breaking the conditions of her house
arrest. The charges were laid after an American man paid an uninvited visit
to her home. It is widely expected she will end up in jail. The verdict of
her trial is expected to be delivered on Friday.

Mr Yeo said: "It was because her husband is a foreigner and from the
'western world' that the 'western world' has come to support Aung San Suu
Kyi and have failed to recognise the rule of the military".

In 1972, Aung San Suu Kyi married Dr Michael Aris, a scholar of Tibetan
culture, in Bhutan. The following year she gave birth to their first son,
Alexander Aris, in London; their second son, Kim, was born in 1977.
Following this, she earned a Ph.D. at the School of Oriental and African
Studies, University of London in 1985.

Mr Yeo denigrated not only Aung San Suu Kyi's personal life , his comments
also cast aspersions on her family and her supporters. Mr Yeo's labeling
of Dr Aris as someone from the 'western world" shows his lack of sympathy
for Aung San Suu Kyi, her husband and their children.

Dr Aris died of cancer on his 53 birthday on March 27 1999. He had requested
to see his wife one last time in Burma but his request was denied by the
military junta.

The fact that the 'western world' supports Aung San Suu Kyi has nothing to
do with her husband being a foreigner . The support for the Burmese cause
and for Aung San Suu Kyi comes from all parts of the world, including Asean

Mr Yeo added that "the problem in Burma is actually a very deep family
dispute and the road to democracy for Burma is long and that the elections
next year is but a small step towards that goal."

Burma's political imbroglio is created by neither Aung San Suu Kyi nor her
party, the National League for Democracy (NLD) . The NLD had won a landslide
victory in the 1990 elections organised by the military junta which, till
today, has refused to hand power over to the NLD. Burma's problems are
created by the military regime itself such as forcing millions of ethnic
minorities to flee to neighboring countries, ignoring humanitarian aid to
cyclone Nargis' victims and killing monks and protesters. The military
regime imprisons thousands of political prisoners. News are now emerging
that the regime is also seeking to build nuclear reactors with help from
North Korea.

Mr Yeo said that "ASEAN has worked well in keeping the peace in this region,
in subjecting the member nations to peer pressure and in trying to forge
economic integration."

Ironically, Mr Yeo's statement is contradicted by Singapore's Senior
Minister, Mr Goh Chok Tong, who had said that "Singapore investors will
likely wait until after Myanmar's elections next year before pouring any
more money into the country". His comment came at the end of a four-day trip
to Burma in June where he met with Burma's top generals, including Senior
Gen Than Shwe.

To conclude, Singapore's Foreign Minister insulted Aung San Suu Kyi, her
husband Dr Michael Aris and Burma's independence leader, General Aung San.

Given the fact that Mr Yeo has gotten his facts wrong, Does he not owe Aung
San Suu Kyi - and the Burmese people - an apology?

Saturday, August 1, 2009

Foreigners with dual citizenships

From: Damned-Virus-Data Miner providers
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 06:12:36 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Fri, Jul 31 2009 9:12 pm
Subject: Re: foreigners with dual citizenships

On Jul 30, 10:27 pm, "truth" wrote:

> The Singapore pap leegime is again discriminating against
> Singaporeans in the area of dual citizenships. The leegime
> does not recognise dual citizenships. So Singaporeans
> who have dual citizenships have to surrender one upon
> reaching the age of 21.
> However at the same time the pap leegime is giving Singapore
> citizenships to foreigners who don't have to give up their
> primary citizenship. There are now so many cases of foreigners
> holding citizenship of Singapore as well as that of other
> countries.
> This is another case of the pap leegime discriminating against
> Singaporeans in favour of foreigners.
> Singaporeans are not allowed to have dual citizenships while
> foreingers are allowed to.

In conclusion, these foreigners whom became Singapore permanent
resident of Singapore did not need to face death if you anything bad by living
under the lenin law. Singaporean whom hold true Singapore identity card faces death of doing somehing bad by Singapore law which was maintained by LKY. This is probably the reason why foreigners hold two different country identity card.

N/B: Despite lots of trouble had happened, all these people whom are
creating the trouble live with no death means live under the U/N charter where some
people had said that there are Unted Nation people around Maine Parade. Do bad
things very good one will definitely find way to live to let other people die for doing something bad where they themselves dare to consider themseleves are totally clean without errors.....count this people like this.

Bleak future for Singaporeans

From: "truth"
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 15:29:02 GMT
Local: Fri, Jul 31 2009 11:29 pm
Subject: Bleak future for Singaporeans

Here's a research paper by Mukul G. Asher and Amarendu Nandy from the LKY
School of Public Policy, NUS on Singapore's Policy responses:

This link provides a ppt presentation of the paper:

The entire paper (20 pages) can be found here if you have access:

I got the link to this paper from Mathia Lee's site [Link]. She has a copy
of the 20 page paper and you can request a copy from her (email :

If you have time, read the ppt presentation yourself and form your own
opinion. The conclusion you MUST read....given this fellers come from LKY
School of Public Policy, it is surprising what the paper says about our
govt's policies. Many of my postings attempt to shed light on what the govt
is trying to accomplish with its policy's a paper by
academics that discusses the same issues with greater rigor. After reading
what they wrote, you'll think our govt and its policies are far worse than
what I describe them to be. I've been too kind to the PAP with my postings!

Here is a highlight of the main points on each area, the statements are all
taken from the slides:


" CPF system will not be adequate to meet the ageing challenges."
"There are several reasons for this inadequacy. A single-tier, involving
mandatory-savings, can never provide adequate replacement rate; or address
inflation and longevity risks; or provide survivand disability benefits
(Asher and Nandy, 2006b)."

"A well designed multi-tier system is needed, as has recently been
recognized in Chile."
"Design and governance issues also act against the adequacy objective; and
so does the tendency to use the CPF system as short-term stabilization

"Given its multiple focus, the proportion of contributions withdrawn during
the pre-retirement period is very high, averaging 81.8% during 2001-2005
period (Table 4).
The share of contributions devoted to retirement is therefore low"

On Welfare and Poverty

"Ad-hoc social welfare schemes of Singapore are also inequitable (Ramesh,

"Singapore has no official poverty line".

"Relative poverty is half of the median per capita household income. Approx.
27% households".

"Less than 5% of households in the low income group are beneficiaries of
state funded systems; and only 0.07% of the population received public
assistance in 2004."

"The amount of assistance is kept deliberately extremely low at around 5-8%
of per capita income."


"It has relied on single tier mandatory savings scheme (CPF) for housing
(primarily); for health care (minor importance quantitatively but major
ideologically); and retirement".

"It has many schemes, designed to increase social-political control of the
ruling party, with stringent means-testing".

"The end result of these social policies has been to make individuals and
their families bear disproportionate risks of old-age and low incomes with
grossly inadequate social risk pooling which is the hallmark of the OECD

"The CPF system, and the current extensive set of schemes will become even
more inadequate, inefficient, and inequitable".

posted by LuckySingaporean