Internet banking in Singapore is a JOKE

From: "truth"
Date: Tue, 07 Jul 2009 12:26:45 GMT
Local: Tues, Jul 7 2009 8:26 pm
Subject: Re: Internet banking in Singapore is a JOKE

In Australia Internet Banking is so simple and yet
secured.
There are other more effective and unobtrusive ways
to secure internet banking without such cumbersome
measures taken by the extremely KIASU pap leegime.

"Siansiansian" wrote in message

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On Jul 7, 4:01 pm, "truth" wrote:

> http://tankinlian.blogspot.com/

> Tuesday, July 07, 2009
> Simplify Internet Banking
> Editor
> Forum Page
> Straits Times

> I use internet banking to transfer money to the other people through their
> bank account. I find this service to be convenient, compared to sending a
> cheque to them.
> However, I find that the actual implementation of this service by my bank
> to
> be a hassle in the following aspects:

> 1. The bank requires the customer to create a record for each new payee
> and
> to authenticate it through a PIN sent through the mobile phone.

> 2. The bank requires the customer to enter the IB Secure PIN for every
> payment

> These layers of security measures are duplicative, as the customer already
> has to enter user ID, PIN and an IB secure PIN to gain access to the
> internet banking facility.
> The real risk to the customer is by entering the wrong account code of the
> payee or the wrong amount. The bank is not helping the customer to
> mitigate
> this risk.
> By giving hassle and distracting the customer, these duplicative tasks
> actually increases the risk to the customer of making mistakes in entering
> the wrong bank account or amount. The inconveniences are aggravated when
> the
> computer system or internet is slow.

> I believe that these security features may have been mandated by the
> regulator. I hope that the banks and the regulator should re-look at these
> requirements and simplify the process for the customer, while maintaining
> an
> adequate level of security. This will allow the customer to focus on
> ensuring that the entries are correct.

> Tan Kin Lian

I think they are doing the right thing?

Singapore police ignorant of the law

From: "truth"
Date: Tue, 07 Jul 2009 13:55:15 GMT
Local: Tues, Jul 7 2009 9:55 pm
Subject: Re: Singapore police ignorant of the law

They have no rights whatsoever to even ask for the names.
In doing so they are either betraying their ignorance and
making fools of themselves or they are acting beyond their
authority and thus bullying Singaporeans. Is this the kind
of impression the SPF wants Singaporeans to have of
them ?
The sooner the SPF wake up from their complacency,
pull up their socks and work as a professional outfit to
unbiasly protect All Singaporeans, the better it is for Singapore
and Singaporeans including policemen.

"Karim" wrote in message
> "truth" wrote in message
> news:ktm4m.2991$ze1.1878@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
>> Why in the first place did the police wrote to ask for
>> names of speakers when there is no need for a permit ?

> Just for their records...in case something should go wrong

>> Are the police abusing their authority to victimise innocent,
>> freedom loving, just and patriotic Singaporeans ?
>> Or are they not aware of a change in the regulation. How
>> can they do their job when they don't know the law ?

>> "Karim" wrote in message
>> news:h2s5vp$3sp$1@news.eternal-september.org...
>>> It had been exempted from the permit requirement, so what are you
>>> complaining about?

>>> "truth" wrote in message
>>> news:Hoe4m.2894$ze1.2034@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
>>>> truth comment: this is amazing and is happening a little
>>>> too often. in their over jealous attitude to protect and
>>>> defend the pap leegime, these policeidiots are either
>>>> not aware of or ignoring the rules and regulations.
>>>> a pathetic and dicredited bunch of idiots are in charge
>>>> of singapore's security. singaporeans ought to be
>>>> extremely worried. it will not be long when the terrorists
>>>> strike successfully with these bumbling police fooling
>>>> around with singaporeans rights and freedom.
>>>> http://singaporerebel.blogspot.com/2009/07/police-retracts-licence-re...
>>>> Monday, July 06, 2009
>>>> Police retracts licence request after Minister queried
>>>> Minister Mentor Lee Kuan Yew meeting Penang's Chief Minister Lim Guan
>>>> Eng
>>>> during his recent trip to Malaysia.

>>>> As an opposition activist with the DAP, Lim had been imprisioned for a
>>>> total of 30 months, including 18 months under the ISA during 1987's
>>>> Operation Lalang, Malaysia's equivalent of our Operation Spectrum.

>>>> While Lee was meeting opposition leaders and lawmakers in Malaysia, his
>>>> police force was busy ferreting out information of an indoor forum
>>>> organised to break the silence on Operation Spectrum.

>>>> A week before the public forum, I received an unsolicited email from
>>>> the
>>>> Tanglin Police Division stating that under the Public Entertainment and
>>>> Meetings Act, I am required to furnish them information regarding name
>>>> of
>>>> speakers and format of forum.

>>>> Immediately, I rang up the officer and reminded him that Prime Minister
>>>> Lee Hsien Loong had in 2004 announced to the nation that indoor talks
>>>> would be exempted from permits. Apparently hard of hearing, the officer
>>>> insisted that I furnish him with the information as requested. I then
>>>> assured him that there will be no foreign speakers and that I would
>>>> reply
>>>> him via email.

>>>> I did, but it wasn't directed to him. I emailed Mr K. Shanmugam,
>>>> Minister
>>>> for Law and Second Minister for Home Affairs, and carbon copied it back
>>>> to
>>>> Tanglin Police Station. In the email, I quoted PM Lee's National Day
>>>> rally
>>>> speech in 2004.

>>>> There was no reply for a week.

>>>> On 26th June, two days before the forum, an email from the Public
>>>> Entertainment & Liquor Licensing Unit stated that indoor talks are
>>>> indeed
>>>> exempted from permits.

>>>> That's Singapore police efficiency for you. You go figure.

>>>> And I still don't know on what basis did the police "investigate"
>>>> Bestway
>>>> Properties for hosting the first forum, originally intended on 20th
>>>> June.

>>>> For the record, the three-and-a-half-hour forum at the Quality Hotel,
>>>> attended by about 40 people, concluded without a glitch.

>>>> Here are the emails.

>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------

>>>> Email to Martyn See from Tanglin Police Division


>>>> Ops Spectrum forum
>>>> Thursday, June 18, 2009 11:18 AM
>>>> From: "Wee Kay CHIN"
>>>> To: singapore_re...@yahoo.com

>>>> Dear Sir,

>>>> I refer to the open forum purported to be held at the Quality Hotel
>>>> Diamond Room, Balestier Road, on Sunday 28 June 2009 from 2pm to
>>>> 5.30pm,
>>>> as
>>>> publicised online at: "http://singaporerebel.blogspot.com".

>>>> 2 Under the Public Entertainments and Meetings Act, Cap 257, any
>>>> lecture, talk, address, debate or discussion held in any place to which
>>>> the
>>>> public or any class of public has access whether gratuitously or
>>>> otherwise
>>>> will require a Public Entertainment (PE) licence, unless otherwise
>>>> exempted. As such, we would appreciate if you can furnish the following
>>>> details in order to help us ascertain the necessary licensing
>>>> requirements:

>>>> i) The synopsis of the discussion;
>>>> ii) Any invited speaker(s) and whether they are locals or foreigners;
>>>> iii) If there are no designated speakers, how will the discussion be
>>>> conducted.

>>>> 3 If you require any clarification, kindly contact me at Tel: 6391
>>> XXXX.

>>>> 4 Thank you.

>>>> Lawrence Chin
>>>> Compliance Management Officer

>>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------------

>>>> Email from Martyn See to Minister

>>>> PEMA permit for indoor forum
>>>> Thursday, June 18, 2009 12:56 PM
>>>> From: "See Tong Ming, Martyn"
>>>> To: k_shanmu...@mlaw.gov.sg
>>>> Cc: CHIN_Wee_...@spf.gov.sgDear sir,

>>>> My name is Martyn See. I am organising an indoor forum entitled
>>>> "Revisiting History : Operation Spectrum - Breaking The Ice After 22
>>>> Years" to be held at the Diamond Room in the Quality Hotel on 28 June
>>>> (Sunday) at 2pm.

>>>> I have just been served an email from Lawrence Chin of the Tanglin
>>>> Police
>>>> Station, who seem to take an active interest in this forthcoming indoor
>>>> talk, publicised in my blog http://singaporerebel.blogspot.com/


>>>> Here, I refer to Prime Minister Hsien Loong's National Day Rally speech
>>>> in
>>>> 2004.

>>>> "..for indoor talks, we are going to do away with licensing. Right now,
>>>> if
>>>> you are going outdoors or indoors, if you want to do a talk, you need a
>>>> Public Entertainment licence. Usually, it's approved, it's not a
>>>> problem,
>>>> but once in a while, you are slow or the police have reservations, they
>>>> say, "No", but it's very rare. So now, we've decided we are going to
>>>> exempt indoor talks from licensing requirements unless they touch on
>>>> sensitive issues like race and religion."
>>>> - Prime Minister Lee Hsien Loong, National Day Rally speech 2004

>>>> I also refer to the Straits Times coverage of your recent speech in
>>>> Parliament.

>>>> "Political space has opened substantially. In 2004, political
>>>> activities
>>>> conducted indoors also became exempt from permits."
>>>> - 2nd Home Affairs Minister K. Shanmugam, quoted by Straits Times, Apr
>>>> 14
>>>> 2009

>>>> My question is patently obvious - does my talk require a licence or
>>>> not?

>>>> I have given my assurances to Mr Chin over the phone that the forum
>>>> will
>>>> not involve any foreign speakers. Your men are most welcome to be to
>>>> present during the proceedings to ensure that.

>>>> I await your response.

>>>> Yours sincerely,
>>>> See Tong Ming, Martyn

>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------­----

>>>> One week later

>>>> Email from Licensing Division to Martyn See

>>>> Re: Fw: PEMA permit for indoor forum
>>>> Friday, June 26, 2009 9:41 AM
>>>> From: "Wei Chung SIM"
>>>> To: singapore_re...@yahoo.com

>>>> Dear Mr See,

>>>> I refer to your email sent to the Minister for Law and Second
>>>> Minister for Home Affairs, Mr K Shanmugam on 18 June 2009.

>>>> 2. Under the Public Entertainment and Meetings (Exemption) Order, any
>>>> indoor talk held in any place to which the public or any class of
>>>> public
>>>> has access, whether gratuitously or otherwise, is exempted from the Act
>>>> if
>>>> the following conditions are complied with:

>>>> (a) the organiser of the indoor public talk is a citizen of Singapore;

>>>> (b) only citizens of Singapore are invited to be lecturers or speakers
>>>> at
>>>> the talk;

>>>> (c) the lecturers or speakers do not deal with any matter -

>>>> (i) which relates, directly or indirectly, to any religious belief or
>>>> to
>>>> religion generally; or

>>>> (ii) which may cause feelings of enmity, hatred, ill-will or hostility
>>>> between different racial or religious groups in Singapore; and

>>>> (d) the lecturers or speakers speak only in any of the 4 official
>>>> languages in Singapore, or any related dialect.

>>>> 3. We note that you had stated in your email and in your
>>>> teleconversation
>>>> with our Officer Lawrence Chin, that there will be no foreigners
>>>> speaking
>>>> at your forum. So long as an indoor talk is conducted in accordance
>>>> with
>>>> all the exemption conditions, the organiser is not required to apply
>>>> for
>>>> a
>>>> Public Entertainment (PE) licence.

>>>> Regards,

>>>> Sim Wei Chung OC Public Entertainment & Liquor Licensing Unit Police
>>>> Licensing Division DID: 655XXXXX FAX: 62261089

>>>> Posted by Martyn See

Best way to be a multi-millionaire in Singapore

From: "WanChonRen"
Date: Sun, 5 Jul 2009 10:31:00 +0800
Subject: There are no government-linked companies there competing against the private sectors

"WanChonRen" wrote in message

> This is straight forward kiasuism. In a dictatorial Singapore, it is still
> best to be a scholar. Work for the PAP government in a public sector. Be a
> yes-man and climbs the corporate ladder with the help of a strong crony's
> hand. You will become a multi-millionaire just like any of the Royal Lee
> Family and their exclusive ruling elites and cronies.
> http://www.asiaone.com/Business/SME%2BCentral/Prime%2BMovers/Story/A1...

Mr. Wong quoted:

'If you look at those markets, they differ from Singapore in one key aspect:
there are hardly any government-linked companies competing against private
sector,' he said. 'This key difference means that for the past few decades,
MNCs and GLCs have been tasked with driving the economies in Singapore. The
market in Singapore was not as conducive as that of Hong Kong and Taiwan in
building entrepreneurial spirit.

'In addition, the most critical factor in the entrepreneurial spirit is risk
reward ratio, which is clearly low in comparison with Hong Kong and Taiwan.
Who wants to be an entrepreneur if you, as a young and highly qualified
graduate, can achieve wealth without taking any risk of your own money by
working for the government? The government's policy of paying civil servants
well has a negative impact on entrepreneurial spirit.'

He is of the view that Singapore will never be able to reach the same level
of entrepreneurial spirit as that of Hong Kong or Taiwan, unless it
restructures the reward system for risk takers. 'But then again, is their
society better than ours, especially when you take into account the social
order and justice, social harmony, etc?' he asked rhetorically

KFC chicken not safe to eat?

From: Monster
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 18:57:33 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Thurs, Jun 25 2009 9:57 am
Subject: Re: are chicken safe to eat from KFC in your country ? ... Cambodia , Thailand , Malaysia , Singapore , China
---------------------------------------------------------------
A report from Taiwan TVBS for 22nd June 2009 ,

KFC in Taiwan only changes its cooking oil for frying KFC Chicken only
once every week , this is very damaging for your health , according to
Taiwan 's ministry of health .

by Taiwanese regulations , KFC should change its cooking oil which KFC
uses for frying KFC chicken , once every 6 hours.

the same Cooking Oil should not be used for more than 6 hours for frying chicken .

are your KFC chicken in your country safe to eat ?

-------------------------------------------------------------

McDonald changes their cooking once every 3 days .

so are the Italian fast food outlets

n Jun 22, 7:58 pm, hodges boyce wrote:
> I had a 2 piece meal from KFC Cameron Highlands which is double boiled meat!
> The breast portion was boiled in some broth before then it is deep fried and i
> had the honours. Talk about recycling meat!

> To answer your question, NO KFC here is not safe. Always go for food that is
> prepared before your eyes... say Japanese teppanyaki?

Singapore is a Myopic Country

From: hu
Date: Sat, 4 Jul 2009 05:59:10 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Sat, Jul 4 2009 8:59 pm
Subject: Re: Singapore is a Myopic Country

On Jul 4, 5:35 pm, "WanChonRen" wrote:

> Singapore has the most short-sighted spectacle wearer in the world. A
> country run by a dictator for more than 40 over years; where he cultivated a
> culture of fear among his citizen thereby producing a by breed known widely
> as kiasuism. A dictator who only recognize paper qualification resulting in
> a paper chasing herd mentally leading to myopic among the young.

> Elsewhere in Malaysia, Thailand or Vietnam, most of the younger males who
> wear glasses are likely to be peeping Tom, straining their eyes from many
> episode of peeping through semi-darkness.

You know who! No need to say. after kena sue until koyak!

Singapore's heartless and incompetent judges

From: "Zai Zai"
Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 16:26:15 GMT
Local: Wed, Jul 1 2009 12:26 am
Subject: Re: Singapore's heartless and incompetent judges

And by the way, forgot to mention this in my earlier post, the verdict is
already out sometime back while Dr. Chee is still here. The judge will just
have to go along and perform the wayang show when Dr. Chee comes back and
attend his court session he will find out that he is bankrupt again and if
he can't pay the fines and charges he will have to be imprisoned again.

Actually, what is the problem with this Dr. Chee, all he has to do is lick
the arse of his opponent and be a good sportsmanship and accept that he had
lost. He could do anything he wants, fly anywhere in the world, these so
called Singaporeans are useless, why does he even want to waste his future
and his family's future away by defending or flighting for more freedom for
these so called Singaporean. I just don't understand, why he is wasting so
much time on useless people that doesn't even vote for him in the end, even
the chinese foreigners here are calling these people stupid, do you think it
is worthwhile to fight for these stupid people Dr. Chee? unless you're also
another stupid idiot Singaporean I guess.

This is how it should work here I agree with Judge Toh. The judge is just
carrying out orders, outwardly it seem like the judge fault, but behind the
scene the judge is just another puppet following orders, and by now you all
should know who and where the orders are coming from, no need to point
fingers you can guess on your own.

"truth" wrote in message


> truth comment: this is just one case. there are plenty of
> them on the bench. this is the direct result of the pap
> policies ranging from education to their focus on
> maintaining their stranglehold on power and $billions.
> consequently the reputation of the singapore judiciary
> has been adversely affected. it will not be long before
> it hit rock bottom with judges like these bungling around
> showing their incompetence and lack of human feelings
> for the world to see.

> District Judge Toh Yung Cheong (photo) had issued a warrant of arrest
> for Dr Chee Soon Juan who is presently in Taiwan for his father-in-law's
> funeral but rescinded it earlier today. Judge Toh issued the warrant last
> Wednesday, 24 June 2009, the day the hearing for the trial over the WB-IMF
> protest in 2006 was to resume.

> Dr Chee did not appear in court that day as he had left for Taiwan
> four days earlier because his father-in-law was dying.

> He had applied for an adjournment before he left but Judge Toh
> rejected the request and ordered that the hearing proceed as scheduled. Dr
> Chee then asked to see Mr Toh in person but was told that the Judge was on
> vacation.

> He then asked to see the Pre-Trial Conference Judge Mr Liew Thiam
> Leng to make the urgent application. Judge Liew refused. The SDP leader
> then asked to see the Duty Registrar but was told that this was not
> possible.

> Dr Chee had earlier obtained clearance from the Official Assignee to
> travel to Taiwan. The OA's office had rejected a similar application in
> 2006 to see his ailing father-in-law.

> Co-defendants Mr Gandhi Ambalam and Ms Chee Siok Chin made another
> appeal to see Mr Toh on Dr Chee's behalf on Monday, 22 June but the Judge
> refused to see them.

> When the trial resumed on 24 June, another appeal was made. The Judge
> again rejected this and issued a warrant of arrest for the SDP
> secretary-general. The rest of the defendants were told to return to court
> on 26 June.

> In the meantime Dr Chee's father-in-law passed away on 25 June.

> The judge was informed about this when parties went back to court on
> the 26th. The defence asked on Dr Chee's behalf that he be allowed to stay
> on to attend the funeral. Again Judge Toh refused. "The warrant of arrest
> still stands," he ordered.

> Dr Chee explained that his request was not unreasonable and that he
> would have to stay on in Taiwan to see through familial obligations. He
> would face the consequences upon his return. He just wanted to make
> arrangements to ensure that his children would be brought home safely
> should he be arrested at the airport.

> This morning, however, Judge Toh reversed his decision and cancelled
> the warrant. He told the defendants that the court had not asked for the
> documentary proof of the death when it should have. Due to this oversight
> and now that he had been furnished with the proof, the Judge decided to
> withdraw the warrant of arrest for Dr Chee.

> New dates will be picked for the on-going trial.

Singapore economy to languish for long long time

From: "Zai Zai"
Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 16:05:55 GMT
Local: Wed, Jul 1 2009 12:05 am
Subject: Re: Singapore economy to languish for long long time

But I thought we paid these so called scholars and talents multimillion
salaries, why can't they perform some kind of miracle to help our economy? I
thought we are the lesser mortals and they're the immortals, can't these so
called immortals perform some kind of miracle to prop up the Singapore
economy and help us the lesser mortals? Such simple task and the self
proclaimed immortals can't do the job, why are we even paying them in this
case? Are we the suckers here.


"truth" wrote in message

> The Singapore economy will be stucked in the shit
> hole the pap has driven it into for a long time.
> Those who hope for a quick recovery will be very
> disappointed.
> The Singapore is stuck on the wrong track. A track
> which leads to destructions. The pap Leegime after
> years of unchallenged power and domination has
> rotted beyond redemption. They are not only reluctant
> to change, they are now incapable of real change.
> So the economy will be stuck in limbo land for a long
> time and Singaporeans will pay the price for allowing
> the pap to dominate anything and everything.
> Competitions keep people on their toes n sharpen
> their minds and skills. Without it
> they rot and slide into shit holes. Just like the way
> the pap is in now.

Wanted - Strong wings deep roots

From: b...@b.com (Polar Bear)
Date: Wed, 01 Jul 2009 04:19:17 GMT
Local: Wed, Jul 1 2009 12:19 pm
Subject: Wanted: Strong wings, deep roots

Get ready, another round of pay rise for the talents.

Are we the talents?

Wanted: Strong wings, deep roots

By Goh Chin Lian, Senior Political Correspondent

More than one in five of the top students from the 1996-1999 A level graduating
cohorts are not working in Singapore today.

And of those from the same batches who went on to universities overseas without
a scholarship bond, more than one in three are today carving out careers outside
the country.

Senior Minister Goh Chok Tong gave these statistics yesterday to illustrate the
urgency of getting young Singaporeans to sink roots here even as they become
more entrepreneurial and break out into the global economy.

'If more and more of our bright students do not return, this begs the question
whether our success in giving them wings to fly far and high will result in our
eventual decline as a nation, especially as we are not even reproducing
ourselves.

Related link:
Students should be 'world-ready'
'No nation will be able to sustain its growth and prosperity without sufficient
talent, much less a small country like Singapore without natural resources,'
said Mr Goh.

He was speaking to more than 1,000 guests at the 70th anniversary dinner of
Chung Cheng High School last night.

He urged schools to help students retain their emotional bonds to Singapore, 'so
that they think of Singapore as the home which nurtured them, and want to
contribute in some ways to the country of their birth'.

To do this, he suggested that schools inculcate in the young certain values,
such as being appreciative of those who help them advance in life; and not
taking for granted the academic, sports and arts programmes they can enjoy here
and abroad, when many children elsewhere cannot.

Mr Goh hoped that the end result of such teaching would be students who have
strong links with their schools, close ties with their friends and a strong
sense of responsibility to their families - even if they choose to live, work
and even settle down overseas.

Switching to Mandarin, Mr Goh said: 'I hope Chung Cheng and our schools will
give two lasting bequests to our children. One is strong wings; the other, deep
roots.

'Like wild geese that migrate each fall, young Singaporeans should be equipped
with the courage, strength and adaptability to venture to distant lands in
search of opportunities. But when spring returns, they will come back, as this
is their home.'

Indeed, Mr Goh further argued in English, helping young Singaporeans stay rooted
here was the most important challenge facing the Education Ministry.

This is because the number of young Singaporeans working overseas will grow,
given that the education system is producing more and more students equipped
with the right skills to go global.

He noted: 'Our continued investments in schools have produced more bright
students with each passing year. In 1996, the number of local students with at
least 4As and a B3 in General Paper was 541. By 2008, this number has more than
doubled to 1,263.'

Even as he made it clear that he supported the push to equip the young to go
global, he said: 'But here we face a conundrum. When we prepare our students to
be entrepreneurial and world-ready, we are also growing wings on them.'

Mr Goh's remarks are a reminder of a point brought up in April last year by
Prime Minister Lee Hsien Loong, when he also touched on the brain drain and how
it could adversely affect the country's survival.

Mr Lee noted that about one in four, or about 150 out of 600, top A-level
students yearly work overseas after their studies.

This trend presented a big challenge to find successors, particularly for
politics, PM Lee said then.

Speaking to The Sunday Times last night, the principal of Chung Cheng High
School (Main) Mr Lo Chee Lin said that one way the school keeps its students
rooted is by emphasising the need to remember one's roots.

This was a key tenet of the school's culture, he said.

It helped too that students could see the examples set by an active alumni, he
added.

These include people like top banker Wee Cho Yaw and Hougang MP Low Thia Khiang,
who were both present at the anniversary celebration last night

From: baldeagle
Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 17:38:38 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Thurs, Jul 2 2009 8:38 am
Subject: Re: Wanted: Strong wings, deep roots... Wanted: A caring Singapore...to retain top brains

On Jul 1, 12:19 pm, b...@b.com (Polar Bear) wrote:

> Wanted: Strong wings, deep roots
> By Goh Chin Lian, Senior Political Correspondent
> More than one in five of the top students from the 1996-1999 A level graduating
> cohorts are not working in Singapore today.

It has been happening for more than two decades....top
brains are flying away...to lands of opportunity...to realise
their dreams.

Excellent examples of those with EDB...hundreds of top
brains are posted to work in the USA, Europe and China.
After completing their bonds, they are head-hunter to
work overseas...many never to return to their birth place.

Others, top graduates are given generous grants by
US and China universities..to do post-graduate research
in the USA and Beijing/Shanghai,.... They become scientists
working for the USA and China.

Why...is it because their will earn less in Singapore ..or
because of the things they consider more important in life ?

Even if the government pay Minister 10 times more money..it will
not retain these top brains.... For these people, they will not
sell their life for money.
They will find fulfilments in other more important areas. Singapore
is a little island with no future for them...what is the use of
millions!

From: "Zai Zai"
Date: Wed, 01 Jul 2009 05:14:03 GMT
Local: Wed, Jul 1 2009 1:14 pm
Subject: Re: Wanted: Strong wings, deep roots

Aiyah, all these wayang wayang one lar. I also got a degree what, from an
oversea school, when I tried applying to these so called govt boards for
work they did not reply to any of my application. You tell me, you want to
work in Singapore? Even if you want, they don't want to hire you lar. Let me
tell you this, they only hire kaki nang, then the kaki nang will hire their
friends and family members only. That is how things work in Singapore, don't
believe me try applying and see lar. They just want to lie to you suckers
again, so they can get more cheap laborers into Singapore. Singaporean don't
want to do this don't want to do that, so we get foreign talents to do it,
talented Singaporean don't want to come home, so we have to attract more
foreign talents to replace them. All wayang wayang excuses lar, this isn't
new so don't get conned easily by them, we Singaporean are suckers, too bad
they can't replace suckers cause no foreign talents want to become suckers
like us.

Most Chinatown shops closed early

From: baldeagle
Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 18:11:19 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Thurs, Jul 2 2009 9:11 am
Subject: Re: Most Chinatown shops closed early....

On Jul 2, 2:27 am, Zanzibar wrote:

> Last night was at Chinatown. It was early about 9pm but the night was
> quiet. There was no crowd in the streets around chinatown hawker
> centre.

> It was a yawning night of empty businesses on these shops and stalls
> in the centre. Passerbys in the streets were like "wondering ghosts"
> making their rounds of visits in their "ghostly" walk. They seemed
> like street loiterers - looking disinterested, wondering, mundaned,
> and subdued.

> By 9pm, most of the food stalls and shops downstairs have closed for
> the day. What was left was some food stalls that served after-dinner
> foods for those after-dinner visits. By 10pm, except for some people
> still finishing up their foods, the rest of the tables were empty of
> people.

> Some of the closed stalls have been closd for sometime. They hung up
> their "for rent" sign to let out their stall. Poor business kills
> their livelihoods. They are on "trying times" on their livilihoods.

> I think the upgrading of Chinatown did not really help in upgrading of
> its business. Firstly, The searing heat built-up in the centre is one
> of the main flaws that deter people from revisiting it again. There
> was no redesign to improve the removing of heat from the hawker
> centre.

> The ERP is the second one. Thirdly, the lack of purchasing customers
> roaming there was the cause of it.

I used to visit China town at least once a week ...for
a taste of good genuine Chinese food....for the
feeling of being among Chinese folks in a true "Chinese
community".

The ERP discourage my friends and I from making a
weekly trip down to China town....it is now once in
a few months.

Now, more tourists than locals visit the hawker stalls..
changing the atmosphere entirely...and the prices of
many food items have doubled....since the upgrading.

Yes. The last I was in China town...it is like a dying
ghost town.


From: Superbee
Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 20:53:20 -0700 (PDT)

Scholars are very good at upgrading a place to make it modern but they
are very weak in retaining the charm, culture and spirit of the place.
They can think with their minds but they don't know how to feel with
their hearts.

Hwang-DBS to start Cambodia bank ops soon

From: "wakaluk....@yahoo.com.sg"
Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 21:39:42 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Tues, Jun 30 2009 12:39 pm
Subject: Re: Hwang-DBS to start Cambodia bank ops soon

Malaysia hopes to fool Cambodians with DBS brand name .


> Published: 2009/06/29
> HWANG-DBS (Malaysia) Bhd (HDMB) is a step closer towards operating a
> commercial bank in Cambodia.

> HDMB said Cambodia's Minister of Commerce had on June 26 issued a
> certificate of incorporation of HwangDBS Commercial Bank Plc (HDCB)
> which is effective from June 19, 2009.

> As required by the National Bank of Cambodia, HDCB targets to start
> operations in Cambodia by July 31, subject to a final licence to be
> issued by the National Bank, HDMB said in announcement on Bursa
> Malaysia.

> HDCB is a wholly-owned subsidiary of the HDMB and will operate as a
> commercial bank in Cambodia.

> Currently, HDCB has an issued and paid-up capital of US$2 comprising
> two ordinary shares of par value US$1 each.

> The issued and paid-up capital of HDCB will be increased to US$20
> million, comprising 20 million ordinary shares of par value US$1 each,
> all to be issued to HDMB before the start of business operations. -
> Bernama