Tuesday, September 15, 2009

Mah Bow Tan says HDB flats still affordable

DontAnyHowSay
Posted: Mon Sep 14, 2009 10:31 pm Post subject:

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Bulldog wrote:
u need a backup plan to settle elsewhere. singapore has turn into a place for the rich only. only the rich can really enjoy life in sg.
those middle to low income group will need to struggle even when u become lao kok kok to pay off ur loan

DontAnyHowSay wrote:
this "PUSH" factor has infact been there since they lasted coined the term "quitters" - DONT BE A QUITTERS. But all the policies are working towards this "PUSH" factor. Very sad.

Many will come, but even more will leave. The EXODUS has actually begun.....

Bulldog wrote:
no one wana be a quitter.
but for a normal society to function. only a small % can be rich
and the majority have to settle to be da gong zhai.

DontAnyHowSay wrote:
yes. the term was meant to be "negative' and to discourage.
however, it is also normal for the masses to "fight" their way up to the rank of "rich". and going overseas in search of better opportunities is one. I don't call this group of people "quitter", in fact i respect them for their courage and sacrifices. a road that myself is taking as well.............

Monday, September 14, 2009

Why Lee Kuan Yew is formidable

From: "lobert"

Lau Lee has the de facto rights to own anything he likes. He can manipulate
anything at his whim. He can screw you up. He can bankrupt you and also can
put you in jail. He jailed a man he branded as "communist" for 23 years.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chia_Thye_Poh
The late Lim Chin Siong was also branded a communist and was also jailed.

Chee Soon Juan was in a way lucky. He was politically and monetarily
bankrupted and was legally forced to abstain from election. JBJ was
bankrupted and was discharged after paid up hefty sums to The Father - The
Son - and the Holy Goh. Unfortunately he died shortly after that.

Lee Kuan Yew is formidable. He can be compared to great leaders like the
present Burmese ruling warload of the present Military Junta in power and
the great leader of communist North Korea.

"truth" wrote in message

> Recently Temasek wrote to the WSJ to say that they don't
> manage Singaporeans money. Whose $ r they managing then ?
> Or are they slowly trying to psycho Singaporeans into this
> idea that the money in Temasek is not theirs. Thus laying the
> groundwork for some other people to take over ownership
> of the funds.
> To me this is an extremely dangerous warning to what is
> developing behind the secretive walls of the papist leegime.
> Singaporeans better watchout and be on guard. Better still
> vote in some checks and balances. Otherwise one of these
> days they will wake up to find that all their reserves have been
> spirited away.

Old fox still going on world trotter holiday spree

From: "AleXX"
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 2009 20:53:31 +0800
Local: Sun, Sep 13 2009 8:53 pm
Subject: The old fox still going on world trotter holiday spree

Still going on a world trotting spree on public money leaving his bed ridden
sick wife at home.

Quote...

MM to visit Britain, Russia and Armenia
Sun, Sep 13, 2009
AsiaOne
Minister Mentor Mr Lee Kuan Yew will visit the UK, the Republic of Armenia and the Russian Federation from today till 23 September.

He will be in UK from 13-17 September, the Republic of Armenia from 17-19 September and the Russian Federation from 19-23 September.

During his trip, he will be meeting the various heads of states of each country.

In London, he will meet David Miliband (Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs), Jack Straw (Lord Chancellor and Secretary of State for Justice) and Lord Peter Mandelson (First Secretary of State and Secretary of State for Business, Innovation and Skills), as well as Leader of Opposition David Cameron, Shadow Chancellor of the Exchequer George Osborne and Shadow Foreign Secretary William Hague.

In Yerevan, he will meet Armenian President Serzh Sargsyan, Prime Minister Tigran Sargsyan and members of the National Competitive Foundation of Armenia.

In Moscow, he will attend the Skolkovo Moscow School of Management's International Advisory Board meeting, and deliver an address at the School?s opening ceremony.

Singaporeans have no future

From: "truth"
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 2009 15:06:27 GMT
Local: Sun, Sep 13 2009 11:06 pm
Subject: Singaporeans have no future

http://tankinlian.blogspot.com/
Comment posted in my blog (edited):

It is hard to compete with "foreign talents" when Singapore men have to do
National Service for two years and will be called up each year for reservist
training.

The Government expects Singapore males to be supermen - tie their hands
behind their back, add weight on their legs and ask them to compete with
"foreign talents".

What kind of Government treat its citizens as slaves - give them no choice
and no rights. Now, the Government ask "foreign talents" to be new
citizens - no need for National Service until the second generation. When it
is time for the second generation to do National Service, they will leave
Singapore.

Singapore has NO FUTURE.

Posted by Tan Kin Lian

Singapore richest man is an ex-underworld chief

From: "Observer"
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 2009 22:09:32 +0800
Local: Fri, Sep 11 2009 10:09 pm
Subject: Re: Singapore richest man is an ex-underworld chief

"truth" wrote in message

> This is the type of meritocratic system which the papist leegime
> produces. Those who become rich are the school dropouts
> and ex-underworld figures while PhD's end up driving taxis.
> Ng Teng Fong was an underworld chief during the era when
> Singapore was infested with gangsters. He was so poor that
> he has to give up at least two of his daughters for adoption.
> Now he is the richest man in Singapore. In the early days, he
> almost went bankrupt in as many times as there were recession
> in Singapore. Only the miraculous hands of some very powerful
> people prevented him from falling.

You MORON.
Hey...we need these kinds of mobsters rather
than you poor educated peasants because these
kinds can be counted upon to do some dirty work
for us whenever we need them.

And these kinds do not think too much about morality
to whom they give their loyalty to. As long as we feed them,
they are like loyal to us like guard dogs. See here, all rich and
greedy people have guard dogs to protect their property against
attack by you peasants, so this is the same. Without our guard
dogs, you people will try to rise up against us to try to
wrestle back your money from our clutches. Surely we
cannot let that happen, right.

So thats why we have ingeniously created as system
that rewards loyalty and NOT talent. We have systematically
kill off any talent that we see will be a potential threat. And we
also make sure that none of you peasant can be as RICH
as our kaki nang so that you cannot then use your wealth
to undermine us and fund the opposition. Thats why you
buggers, no matter how talented and how hard working
you are, will NEVER get rich here in stinkaput, because
we will never allow you moralist buggers to gain control.
Thats why we need GANGSTERS....because we too
are gangsters...but legal ones, ok...
LOL.

From: Siansiansian
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 2009 11:14:29 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Sat, Sep 12 2009 2:14 am
Subject: Re: Singapore richest man is an ex-underworld chief

Ng Teng Fong has one very simple strategy to work on the back of bank
and Government,

If you keep borrowing money from the banks to buy property, it is the
bank who will be afraid of you to go bust, so much so they have to
keep lending you big money to keep you afloat. Likewise, if a bank is
involved in a large sum of loan, it is the Govt who will make sure
this bank will not go bust when the big timer is at risk.

So Ng just keep on borrowing and invest in the early days, and now he
is the richest simply because the property prices are bubbled up by
all the parties involved. Mr Ng's rich is only built and bubbled based
on the fixed assets (aka land and properties)/ Once the property price
ever wetn burst, only then he will go bust. But this is unlikely,
because the Singapore Govt will make sure this will not happen.

So Mr Ng is actually very clever to work on the back of the Govt.

Friday, September 11, 2009

Piquet reveals he 'was asked to crash' in Singapore F1

Piquet reveals he 'was asked to crash' by Renault

It is being claimed in the media that Nelsinho Piquet has admitted to the FIA that he 'was asked to deliberately crash' by his employers Renault during the 2008 Singapore Grand Prix – thereby playing a crucial role in team-mate Fernando Alonso's victory in Formula 1's inaugural night race.

Renault is due to appear before the governing body's World Motor Sport Council (WMSC) on 21 September, to face charges of committing 'a breach of Article 151c of the International Sporting Code, that the team conspired with its driver, Nelson Piquet Jr, to cause a deliberate crash at the 2008 Singapore Grand Prix with the aim of causing the deployment of the safety car to the advantage of its other driver, Fernando Alonso' [see separate story – click here].

Ahead of that, British newspaper the Daily Mirror reports that Piquet has told FIA investigators that only hours prior to the grand prix, he met in one of Renault's offices at the track to discuss race tactics with the RĂ©gie's executive director of engineering Pat Symonds and managing director Flavio Briatore – the man who last month sacked the Brazilian mid-season, prompting a very public media slanging match between the pair.

There followed, the 'paper alleges, a second meeting with Symonds, during which it was agreed that Piquet would do what he could to help Alonso to triumph. It has been contended that it was only the double F1 World Champion's back-to-back late-season successes in Singapore and Japan that prevented Renault from ceasing its F1 involvement at the end of last year.

Piquet's argument is understood to be that he complied with the instruction as he felt under pressure to hold onto his drive, with little security regarding his seat in 2009 and fearful that his entire career was on the line – and he believed that in acquiescing to the team's demands, he might save his place inside the squad. The 24-year-old added that the part of the Marina Bay street circuit where he came into contact with the wall was chosen due to the lack of cranes in the area to remove any stranded cars, in so doing ensuring there would be a safety car.

Alonso leapfrogged up the order from outside the top ten into the lead following the safety car period, during which virtually the entire field came into re-fuel – whilst the Spaniard, who denies all knowledge of the plot, had already done so just two laps previously, thereby placing him in the most advantageous position once the racing resumed.

According to the Mirror, the FIA is working in tandem with Quest – the detective agency run by former head of the Metropolitan Police Lord Stevens – and has unearthed evidence that at turn 17, the corner where the accident occurred, Piquet had lifted off on every lap due to the lack of grip there, apart from the lap on which he crashed. It has also been stated that shortly before his impact, the son of three-time F1 World Champion Nelson Piquet had asked his team over the pits-to-car radio what lap he was on.

Renault has declined to comment on the incident, though it is understood that whilst Briatore – who is portraying himself as a victim of 'extortion' by the Piquet family – is denying any such 'fix' being either discussed or implemented, Symonds has acknowledged the fact that 'a conversation' between team and driver did take place, but that nothing concrete arose from it. The Enstone-based outfit has allegedly insisted that the suggestion came from Piquet and not from the team.

According to The Times, it was Piquet's father who initially notified the FIA of the allegations by contacting the organisation's president Max Mosley on 26 July, the day of the Hungarian Grand Prix – his son's final race for Renault before being dismissed. It is reported that Piquet Jnr subsequently travelled to Paris four days later to present his own statement to FIA officials.

Should Renault be found guilty of bringing the sport into disrepute, it could find itself expelled from the top flight – and some surmise that even in the event of an 'innocent' verdict, the parent company in France may choose to pull the plug on its F1 project as a result of the global embarrassment caused and damage to its reputation.

Thursday, September 10, 2009

Liberal International complain to UN on Singapore abuse of Human Rights

From: "Observer"
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 2009 09:27:10 +0800
Local: Fri, Sep 11 2009 9:27 am
Subject: Re: Liberal International complain to UN on Singapore abuse of Human Rights

"truth" wrote in message

> http://www.yoursdp.org/index.php/news/singapore/2746-li-takes-up-sing...
> Singapore

> The International Bar Association (IBA) produced a report in July 2008
> after it held one of its annual conferences in Singapore. In that report,
> the IBA stated that:

You MORON.
By the time you peasants found out that you actually
can complain to the UNHCR, we the elites have already
completed our siphoning of your money to become ours.

See how we were able to start companies using capital
provided by you stupid peasants, then pretend pretend
that these business are doing well, and then when we
think that you peasants have forgotten how and where we
got our capital, we then sell off these companies assets
to "private" companies (which are connected to us lar...).
That way, we have cunningly and legally "transferred"
public wealth to become ours.....get it.

Those other dictators like marcos was not so smart. We on the
other hand use all our SCHOLARS cleverly to swindle
you peasants....thats why we only hire SCHOLARS who
through years of mugging on narrow subjects, are completely
unaware of their wider moral responsibilities towards the
poor public that funded their studies. You think we the
elites never plan all these carefully so that we do not
get caught like marcos and suharto issit?

I mean, see how STUPID you stinkaputs are....that
you have a law that states that ONE person can
be charged for illegal assembly?
Where in the world of other democratic country do
you have such RIDICULOUS law ah?
You bozos don't even know hov to write to the UNHCR
to highlight all these ridiculous laws but kwai kwai follow
them...but don't blame yourselves lar....you don't know
all these because we made sure our SCHOOLS never
teach you all these things. We only teach you maths and
science so that you are never aware of your own rights
and our history of working for the enemies.

Whilst you stupid monkeys are torturing your kids
to study useless things, we are quietly sending our
kids overseas and siphoning off your money to become
ours. Thats why your kids, even though they are
NET savvy, don't even know how to email the
UNHCR and tell them of the RIDICULOUS laws
like the above and that you cannot even take
pictures when the police beat you up.

So please kow tow to us, the elites who have
graciously allow you to live in stinkaput.
LOL.

Temasek robbing Singaporeans of their wealth

From: "kingkong"
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 2009 08:07:19 +0800
Local: Fri, Sep 11 2009 8:07 am
Subject: Re: Temasek robbing Singaporeans of their wealth

Do Singaporean knew why Chip Goodyear left Temasek Holdings after 5 months ?

Temasek Holdings recent selling of Singapore Food Industry to SATS and then
SIA selling SATS back to Temasek Holdings is a good example.

In the end, they just shuffle things around without much.

In addition, MOF provide them with cheap source of funding from CPF and
taxpayer. In addition, where do most Temasek Holdings dividend came from ?
They are mostly from Singapore based companies.

"Zanzibar" wrote in message

On Sep 10, 11:56 am, "truth" wrote:

> Recently Temasek wrote to the WSJ to say that they don't
> manage Singaporeans money. Whose $ r they managing then ?
> Or are they slowly trying to psycho Singaporeans into this
> idea that the money in Temasek is not theirs. Thus laying the
> groundwork for some other people to take over ownership
> of the funds.
> To me this is an extremely dangerous warning to what is
> developing behind the secretive walls of the papist leegime.
> Singaporeans better watchout and be on guard. Better still
> vote in some checks and balances. Otherwise one of these
> days they will wake up to find that all their reserves have been
> spirited away.

Strangely speaking, if they dont manage singaporeans money, where did
they get the physical money from in paying for their capital to invest
and so on...


From: "lobert"

Lau Lee has the de facto rights to own anything he likes. He can manipulate
anything at his whim. He can screw you up. He can bankrupt you and also can
put you in jail. He jailed a man he branded as "communist" for 23 years.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chia_Thye_Poh
The late Lim Chin Siong was also branded a communist and was also jailed.

Chee Soon Juan was in a way lucky. He was politically and monetarily
bankrupted and was legally forced to abstain from election. JBJ was
bankrupted and was discharged after paid up hefty sums to The Father - The
Son - and the Holy Goh. Unfortunately he died shortly after that.

Lee Kuan Yew is formidable. He can be compared to great leaders like the
present Burmese ruling warload of the present Military Junta in power and
the great leader of communist North Korea.

Singapore is the BEST place to do business?

From: "Observer"
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 2009 09:09:16 +0800
Local: Fri, Sep 11 2009 9:09 am
Subject: Hey, stinkapoor is the BEST place to do business?

It was reported that stinkapoor is the BEST
place to do business.
Can this be so?

One kopitiam uncle says that any CCB country
can be the BEST place to do business as long as
they suck the cocks of those companies at the expense
of its own citizens.

1) Just make sure you don't have any credible TRADE UNIONS
to demand for the rightful pay and working conditions.

2) Make sure no pesky opposition can highlight all these
wrongs to the public and to the rest of the world.

3) Make laws that favour the businesses even if they
are robbing the citizens blind....one example is the
minibond saga.

4) Make sure your citizens are eternally stupid and unaware
of whats really going on and what rights have been stolen
from them using the many spin doctors and compliant media
(which is actually run by the kaki nangs and ex BG's)

5) Keep coming up with skewed statistics to bluff the
citizens that they are the BEST treated people in the world
whilst not realising that their reserves have slowly been
siphoned off....

6) Hide the truth like stopping pictures of the REAL
poor people in stinkapoor from being seen by the public
and even the outside world by using their financial might
(public money lar...) to buy/suppress foreign papers from
publishing pictures of old ladies collecting cartons and
drink cans...

Why stinakapoor is number one in all the above is simply
because NO OTHER democratic country is able to do
the above to its people. Of course all politicians and governments
want to do the above like stinkapoor, but their citizens are
too smart to allow them to do what the stinkapoor elites
are doing to their citizens without being kicked out by their
citizens. The only other country that is
able to do all of the above is North Korea. So thats why
stinkapoor is NUMBER ONE lar...

So there you are, a perfect way to become the BEST
in the world...
Anyone disagree?
LOL.

Wednesday, September 9, 2009

LKY personal propaganda tool = public media

From: "truth"
Date: Wed, 09 Sep 2009 04:31:46 GMT
Local: Wed, Sep 9 2009 12:31 pm
Subject: LKY personal propaganda tool = public media

No doubt about that. The Singapore public media is nothing
more than LKY personal propanda tool. He has direct access
to all the top managment especially the editors. He instructs
them not only on subject matters but also in format and way
it should be presented to the public.
For e.g. during the Sars crisis, LKY told the editors to do
something which they have never done before which is to
produce a booklet information sheets on Sars.