Date: Sat, 16 May 2009 06:42:51 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Sat, May 16 2009 9:42 pm
Subject: Re: Our social values
On May 16, 4:07 pm, singagand...@gmail.com wrote:
> On May 16, 12:46 pm, salahpal...@gmail.com wrote:
> > On May 16, 6:32 am, shauan...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > On May 15, 1:43 pm, awarebew...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > On May 15, 11:48 am, homole...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > > On May 15, 8:56 am, humanist1...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > > > Underlying the AWARE saga is the more basic issue of social values.
> > > > > > Which to accept, which to reject? Prior to this, who should decide?
> > > > > > In our democratic political system, the right should belong to the
> > > > > > elected representatives of the people. Other fringe organisations such
> > > > > > as NGO's and civil societies can give feedbacks and opinions to the
> > > > > > government but they should not be allowed to decide for the ordinary
> > > > > > folks. In this context, the participation of AWARE in sex education in
> > > > > > schools is out-of-bound. It's legal advisor may disagree but its
> > > > > > illegal.
> > > > > > What is the right attitude? Five words have been popularly bandied
> > > > > > about.
> > > > > > Tolerant, Open, Diverse, Inclusive, Liberal - "TODIL"
> > > > > > These are ideals which are easy to recite but not as easily put into
> > > > > > practice. Even their proponents sometimes defy them while expounding
> > > > > > them. Take the case of sexuality. Those of the TODIL attitudes are
> > > > > > solely for it, in all ways. Their slogans are 'Just do it', 'Don't
> > > > > > think about it', 'Don't rationalise it'. If one is truly open-minded
> > > > > > about something, one should not be only obsessed with its existence
> > > > > > and presence but also be able to think of it non-existence and
> > > > > > absence. Full and true inclusiveness of sexuality should include its
> > > > > > abstinence. Those vocal few who are supposedly TODIL about sex never
> > > > > > want to know about sexual abstinence. They ridicule it and are even
> > > > > > hostile towards it.
> > > > > > One word from our national ideal - Progress
> > > > > > Is the TODIL attitudes towards sexuality progressive? These attitudes
> > > > > > have been around for many decades. They have not fixed old problems
> > > > > > like STDs, teenage pregnancies, rapes, molests, illicit affairs, etc.
> > > > > > These have actually worsen over the times the TODIL attitudes hold
> > > > > > sway. Worse still, new problems are introduced. There are new
> > > > > > incurable diseases like AIDS. Nowadays, not only girls but boys too
> > > > > > can become victims of sex crimes.
> > > > > > It is time people with the TODIL attitudes re-think. Perhaps
> > > > > > "Progress" should be the guiding word when we pursue social values.
> > > > > TODIL attitudes have failed in the West. Western societies today are
> > > > > all sex-obsessed. Sex addictions permeate throughout all levels of
> > > > > society - from the ordinary people to the highest officials. Some of
> > > > > these rotten Westerners have come over here and together with some
> > > > > Western "educated" among us, who is indoctrinated to believe
> > > > > everything and everyone Western is superior, are trying to influence
> > > > > the rest of us in their rotten ways.
> > > > These sex deviants have infiltrated many organisations and are
> > > > starting to infiltrate the government as NMPs. The silent majority of
> > > > Singaporeans should wake up. The AWARE saga has done a good job in
> > > > this respect. It has awaken many Singaporeans to what is happening to
> > > > our society.
> > > People like Siew Kum Hong should not be allowed into Parliament again.
> > > He does not connect with ordinary folks. He does not represent the
> > > family man. He does not speak for the common men and women in the
> > > street. He is only interested in promoting minority interest -
> > > specifically the homosexuals. He is the kind which can inflict severe
> > > damage on our society, the type who is profoundly wrong.
> > > Look at his public behaviour in the AWARE EGM. He was supporting the
> > > mob during the meeting. He next wrote an article in support of the
> > > unruly and uncivilised crowds describing them as passionate.
> > > supporters. It means he is in support of such behavior in Parliament.
> > > He would support the MPs and those in the public gallery to behave as
> > > mobsters.
> > Look at our sex-related social ills.
> > STDs and AIDS cases keep growing up. People who never fool around have
> > fallen victims to these diseases. Wives getting it from husband.
> > Ordinary folks who were unfortunate enough to have a blood transfusion
> > in hospitals.
> > The number of pregnancies, abortions and abandonment of new-born
> > babies by teenagers keep going up.
> > The number of sex crimes against children keep going up. They are
> > vulnerable victims because of their age. The state can impose severe
> > sentences on the criminals but it can never change the bad experiences
> > the children had been through. It is not only girls now but boys too
> > are in danger.
> > So many marriages and families have broken up because of illicit
> > affairs of married couples. This in turn gives rise to many children
> > without a proper home.
> > If you stir up the beast in the man, a whole range of human beings are
> > placed in danger, from children through youngsters to grown-up. And
> > this is exactly what the NGOs and civil societies are doing,
> > advocating tolerance, openness, inclusiveness and liberalisation of
> > sex but is strictly and strongly against abstinence from it.
> > For a man like Siew Kum Hong who is noble enough to volunteer for
> > social activities, who is so vocal and oratorical, why does he choose
> > to champion the cause of the homosexuals? There are enough sex-related
> > social issues to tackle without homosexuality. In fact, the male is
> > the dominant half of all sex-related problems. Sex criminals, almost
> > without exceptions, are males. Males are the sex predators who look
> > upon the females as games. He would do our society a lot of good if he
> > would champion the cause to make the males more sexually responsible.
> We are hearing the same things again - tolerance and accomodation,
> respect and tolerance
> Stuart Koe, CEO of gay portal Fridae.com, said: "The gay community is
> pro-family. We have families. We love our families and our families
> love us. But as a result of what's been happening in the press and the
> public media, a lot of abuse and offensive words have been hurled with
> impunity and I think the people around us are quite hurt about that.
> The issue is not whether you are pro-family or not. The issue is why
> do you like to poke backsides and think it is alright?
> You gays are hurt? You shithole fvckers don't know what it's like to
> be hurt. What about the parents whose kids were molested by the gays?
> Who feels their hurt? Are you going to tell them that what had
> happened to their kids are something they had to accommodate and
> tolerate? That they have to show respect to the molesters?
> "I'm really concerned that the pendulum in Singapore seems to have
> swung so far to the right." Stuart Koe again.
> Most people don't know what is left or right. They only want to know
> what is right or wrong. Is it right that people should be encouraged
> to behave in ways that hurt kids? Has something not gone wrong with
> society when even boys are in danger of being molested? It was not
> like this before - i.e. before some "educated ones" come out to give
> support to homosexuality.
> about a thousand attended outdoor gay protest.
> 'more inclusive Singapore' as well as the freedom to love,
> regardless of sexual orientation
> You can love yourselves, i.e. fvck each others shitholes, to death for
> all we care but don't come and 'love' our kids.
News report about a thousand attended singapore's first outdoor gay
This means every boy in Singapore risk being molested by about a
thousand gays, everyday.